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&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7227975" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: ASP.NET Async Controllers Rock!!</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/adamgreene/archive/2009/04/03/asp-net-async-controllers-rock.aspx#7076183</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:25:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:7076183</guid><dc:creator>Stuart Cam</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Example MVC site with NServiceBus&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://blog.codebrain.co.uk/post/2009/05/07/Asynchronous-MVC-Controllers-2b-NServiceBus.aspx"&gt;blog.codebrain.co.uk/.../Asynchronous-MVC-Controllers-2b-NServiceBus.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7076183" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>Topics about Facebook  &amp;raquo; Archive   &amp;raquo; ASP.NET Async Controllers Rock!!</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/adamgreene/archive/2009/04/03/asp-net-async-controllers-rock.aspx#7032660</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:55:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:7032660</guid><dc:creator>Topics about Facebook  » Archive   » ASP.NET Async Controllers Rock!!</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Pingback from &amp;nbsp;Topics about Facebook &amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;raquo; Archive &amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;raquo; ASP.NET Async Controllers Rock!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7032660" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: ASP.NET Async Controllers Rock!!</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/adamgreene/archive/2009/04/03/asp-net-async-controllers-rock.aspx#7026640</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:45:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:7026640</guid><dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The visitmix.com site is absolutely useless. Ten minutes in to every video, it stops and displays &amp;quot;Media Failure - try reloading the page&amp;quot;. This happens in both Firefox and IE8, at work and at home. What a waste of time!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7026640" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Visual Studio 2008 vs Ruby on Rails</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/adamgreene/archive/2007/10/23/visual-studio-2008-vs-ruby-on-rails.aspx#5506704</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:52:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:5506704</guid><dc:creator>AkitaOnRails</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Good post, as a full time Railer I don't really agree with all you say or imply - for example making the mistake that Bruce Tate not knowing somethings mean they don't exist, or are just too difficult to bother; or worse: that he summarizes what a Railer is. But even with this I like how started this discussion: you actually tried RoR even being a .Net programmer and for that I applaud your article. I don't know you but at least for me you seem to tried your best to do an educated argument. I don't see the usual troll ranting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That's a breathe of fresh air because recently I naively got myself involved in a public ranting against a brazilian .net troll that started his argument by implying that anyone who chooses RoR is a misinformed noobie. Pros have only one choice: asp.net.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agreed with him that RoR isn't perfect. I know that even MS has lots of very smart and truly dedicated developer. I interviewed John Lam for my website and he was very insightful. But this troll in question wanted to set a very lame &amp;quot;competition&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;scientifically &amp;nbsp; prove&amp;quot; that asp.net is far superior and therefore RoR wouldn't even &amp;nbsp;deserve to exist.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My main problem with him was that he deemed utterly unnecessary for him to even look at RoR to assert he was right. At that point - after a very lengthy discussion - I dropped him as it became a waste of time. I actually know .net very well and I do respect its capabilities. I've deployed Java, Php, Perl and Python systems for that matter. RoR &amp;quot;clicked&amp;quot; for me. Even being a heavy Eclipse user for the past couple of years I actually don't miss it that much.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your discussion raises a number of valid points. No one has ever stated that RoR is perfect, it is evolving. You mentioned DotNetNuke, it really is a neat product. Let's just remember that I used to do phpNuke years before and it took some time for .net to catch up later. The RoR world doesn't have something similar today, yet! We don't have anything like Wordpress for that matter, or Plone. It doesn't mean however that this deems RoR &amp;quot;inferior&amp;quot; it just means that either the community will catch up soon, or that this niche is already well served and yet another clone wouldn't be meaningful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You mentioned open source projects that makes .net better like NHibernate. But if we consider just the bare bone out-of-the-box .net it is harder to compare it next to RoR. If we can consider add-ons, than you should add tools like ActiveScaffold to the mix. Now scaffolding doesn't look so bad. Or maybe add Ambition as a contender for Linq. Or Markaby or Haml for ease of semantic web construction. Maybe Rspec would make it seem just too cool to mention for testing. And so on and so forth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don't get me wrong: I don't disagree that Vs2008 will be better than vs2003, but they're not aiming for a frozen down target: we are moving, faster than ever. One year ago no one would have believed that Ruby would be possible and fast over the Jvm, but we are now. No one would have believed that one could have things as Twitter happening, but it is. Or even that one would be able to host RoR apps over .net, but we are on the verge to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The best thing about RoR, to me, is being part of a very energetic community that is always under pressure. No one believed us 2 to 3 years ago. But we sped up so fast that a lot of people now have to play catch up. 6 months from now some other frameworks will catch up until where we stand now. But in 6 months we will have progressed some more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And instead of considering just Bruce Tate you should try people as Dr Nic Williams, Geoffrey Grosenbach, Chad Fowler, David Black, Evan Phoenix, Hal Fulton, etc. I know: I've interviwed them all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All that said, let me tell that I partially agree with your conclusion: RoR is not suited for every use case. Any project that diverges from 37signals style apps may have a hard time. You need Wordpress? Stick with the real deal. You need Plone? Stick with it. It is part of being a good developer to know how to make educated decisions. Learning other languages, frameworks and tools is part of the job. And trying to make your tool look good by the wrong path of trying to make everybody else look bad is a noobie thing. Glad you didn't walked that line.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=5506704" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: AJAX and Authentication and Profile Services</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/adamgreene/archive/2007/09/25/ajax-and-authentication-and-profile-services.aspx#5461342</link><pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:11:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:5461342</guid><dc:creator>minos</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;That's really a great article.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As the code itself it is simple an powerful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It helped me a lot. Well done!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=5461342" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: WIPP (Windows IIS PostgreSQL PHP)</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/adamgreene/archive/2007/11/06/wipp-windows-iis-postgresql-php.aspx#5407263</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:03:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:5407263</guid><dc:creator>ccm682</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Issues with PHP 5. &amp;nbsp;I have no issues with PHP 5, I think it is a pretty descent web scripting language. I have issues with the fact that between version 4 and version 5 they changed the way things worked, which broke so many things the site doesn't work right!! &amp;nbsp;I have a page that displays fine, but as soon as I try to submit any forms or use database stuff, all I get is blank areas of the page where there should be content. &amp;nbsp;I'm not a hard core PHP programmer and don't really want to be, so I don't know really what broke. &amp;nbsp;I'm in the middle of a proposal to get away from PHP anyways and to something that better fits the requirements (it must integrate tightly with Java and the client doesn't like the fact that PHP-Java bridge is &amp;quot;beta&amp;quot;. &amp;nbsp;It must integrate with a ESB, with BizTalk-like backend system, etc)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=5407263" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: WIPP (Windows IIS PostgreSQL PHP)</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/adamgreene/archive/2007/11/06/wipp-windows-iis-postgresql-php.aspx#5407246</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:58:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:5407246</guid><dc:creator>ccm682</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I had the same problem with PostgreSQL, turned out firewall on windows was the problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=5407246" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Visual Studio 2008 vs Ruby on Rails</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/adamgreene/archive/2007/10/23/visual-studio-2008-vs-ruby-on-rails.aspx#5396375</link><pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:42:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:5396375</guid><dc:creator>Huw Collingbourne</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;there are currently no Ruby specific WYSIWYG systems out there, but you can design your look in Dreamweaver and then edit in the dynamic content.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep an eye on what we are doing with Ruby In Steel. We'll be launching the Visual Rails Workbench early in 2008. Amongst other things, this will let you design your Ruby On Rails site in Dreamweaver or some other web design tool. We'll have more details on the blog shortly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;best wishes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Huw Collingbourne&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SapphireSteel Software&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=5396375" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: WIPP (Windows IIS PostgreSQL PHP)</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/adamgreene/archive/2007/11/06/wipp-windows-iis-postgresql-php.aspx#5320522</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:01:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:5320522</guid><dc:creator>daniel brughera</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, maybee you can help me, im trying to do something like that, but i can&amp;#180;t connect to pgsql.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I already test the remote connection to pgsql and it works using php from another Linux location, but when I try to do the same connection from php on IIS, it doesnt connect it...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What can i do &lt;/p&gt;
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