The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

Yesterday on The Daily WTF, I mentioned something I called the Steve Rule: in a random sample of programmers, there will be more named Steve then there will be females.

What's ironic is that I didn't mean that as a joke. In my personal experience, every group of programmers with fifteen or more always had more guys with the same name than women. No, it's not always Steve, but that was the name when I first made the observation (three Steves, one woman).

I thought I'd test the "Steve Rule" once again using the Weblogs.Asp.Net bloggers. To do this, I looked at the OPML [XML], and used the title of 258 blogs. There were 139 I skipped because either I couldn't tell the gender (no offense, Suresh Behera, et al.) or the title didn't have a name (e.g. Models and Hacks).

Of the blogs, I found six female bloggers:

For the guys, I was only able to find four different Steves. But, there were seven different names (with slight variations) that outnumbered the girls

  • Andrew (7)
  • Chris (7)
  • Dave (7)
  • Jason (7)
  • John (7)
  • Robert (7)
  • Scott (9).

So, for us Weblogs.Asp.Net bloggers, it looks like we are goverened by the "Scott Rule." How about that?

Published Friday, April 22, 2005 2:06 PM by Alex Papadimoulis

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Friday, April 22, 2005 3:11 PM by Thomas Eyde

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Where I come from, Kristian is not a girl's name. So you probably have only 5 female bloggers.
Friday, April 22, 2005 3:22 PM by jayson knight

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I've worked with more Raj's than females; and I can count on one hand the number of female coders I've done projects with. Never really thought about it...interesting observation.
Friday, April 22, 2005 4:20 PM by Chuk

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And that Kristian has only one post in his (her?) blog, too, so hardly counts.
Friday, April 22, 2005 4:39 PM by Jakeypoo

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"Gwen" is pretty ambiguous and only has one post, too.
Friday, April 22, 2005 4:41 PM by Blue

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I'm disappointed.
Only Julia Lerman (if you follow her 'moved to' link) has posted more than once in 2005. What a poor showing
Friday, April 22, 2005 5:03 PM by TrackBack

# On Software Development and Gender

Alex’s post about “The Steve Rule” got me to thinking about software development...
Friday, April 22, 2005 5:39 PM by James Curran

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

At my company we has 1 female developer. Among the men, we have: James, Miguel, James, Miguel and James.
Friday, April 22, 2005 8:43 PM by TheZeusJuice

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At my university cs department we have the Matt to Girl ratio
Friday, April 22, 2005 9:38 PM by =j

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

Well there are two things here. The obvious one is there are less women in programing than men. The other less obvious thing is there are fewer male names than female names in the US (go check your census data). So, a small poplulation of women combined with a small variety of names of men and you have the spooky steve to girl ratio.
Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:31 AM by Kate Gregory

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

Marcie (one of the asp.net bloggers you mention) and Julie Lerman (mentioned in your comments already) observed that at Tech Ed last year there were 8 women speakers, and 8 speakers named Brian. This has become our favourite measure of balance. About half the time I am at an event the women and Brians balance. For example last week I was on a panel at VSLive with Brian Randell - instant balance.

However this year the women slightly outnumber the Brians as Tech Ed speakers ( http://www.gregcons.com/kateblog/Trackback.aspx?guid=2762e183-ba2f-49ea-99ed-38dfb7f71e89 ). I didn't check the Steves though.
Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:01 AM by TrackBack

# The 'Steve' Rule

Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:49 PM by Ruth

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

Now in my office of programmers, there are five Mikes, two Ricks (okay Rich and Rick), and an impressive array of other masculine names, including one Steve. Everyone is on a first name basis except the Mikes who are universally referred to by their last names. All the women are uniquely named, no duplicates.
Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:04 PM by Chris Norman

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asp.net?

Iew iew iew iew
Run away!!!
Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:22 PM by Toxia

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

Jeff is also a common name for programmers. In my list of "elite programmers", many of them are Jeff's
Monday, April 25, 2005 9:54 AM by Nick

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

Anyone else noticed how "Nick" rarely appears as a typical male programmer name...



Well there go my career prospects.
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:30 AM by keeper40k

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

I don't know about Kristian and Gwen, but could it be that that is a boy named Sue?
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:53 PM by Eric Vitiello

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

Another interesting observation is the number of programmers named "Eric" that have a mustache:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/ecsl/
Friday, April 29, 2005 11:55 AM by Baloney

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

Our team of 10 developers has 3 women and NO duplicate guys names!

This must be the exception that prooves the rule.
Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:44 AM by Steve

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

At my last company we had 1 female developer and I was one of the two Steves (although the other one was moving out of development and into management).
Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:59 AM by Jon Limjap

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

In my previous job, when we lost our last female, our operations guys created a policy to hire only female On-the-job-trainees for the programming team.

None of us complained. We even got to hire a female developer after that.
Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:37 AM by Jeff Atwood

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

Julia Lerman calls this the "Brian" rule based on TechEd 2004 speakers..

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000282.html
Wednesday, October 03, 2007 6:59 PM by kukanov

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

I love you people

George

Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:17 PM by chris christmas

# re: The "Steve Rule" Proved True Again

the real wtf is that all 7 of the chrisses are women.  Also 90% of the women in IT are named Suresh.

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