Great job gentlemen! I would've loved to have called in, but I'm at work. So, I love the idea of a midnight show!!! I'm always up late coding...oh crap, did I just admit that pubicly. I must admit, I was skeptical at first about the "long form" ads, but it was very informative (having the guests ask questions of the advertiser was a good thing). I give it a thumbs up.

I love the live format...excellent job on your first show Rory...and keep the live stuff coming!!

Awesome job! I looked around for my old headset, but no luck finding it. I did download Skype, though, so maybe next time (if I'm home sick then, too).

OK, I admitted it "publicly".

Good job and the idea of a late show is a good one as not everyone can call in during business hours.

I listened to a bit of it and it was excellent. Will listen to the rest when it's online.

I got to listen to the first hour and it was awesome, keep up the great work. I really like the new ad format, much better than the old ads.

Great show and I love the idea of a DevTalk late show. I too am often up late coding. So if there is a support group or anything for people like us, then give me the 12 steps.

I also don't have a headset or mic during the day but should at home at night.

I really enjoyed the live show. Some of the calls were hard to hear, but other than that, I love this format.

Great show! Lost the feed a couple of times late in the first hour but still a Rocking success.

One of the callers aked about securing passwords in a database using .NET cryptography. Pat Hynds showed how to do this using hashing with random salt at at recent talk I attended.

Powerpoint and code samples from the talk can be found here:
http://www.torontoug.net/Downloads/385.aspx

Great show, I got so interested that I almost forgot to go register my car (last day today). Had to run out for 15 minutes to get that done.

I enjoyed doing these talks with Carl. He's the qunitesential professional and host. He always makes the guest seem welcome and at ease. Ask me again anytime to talk on any subject from helicopters to jets (so to speak).

For those who could connect.. I was able to connect before the show, but as soon as you went live all I could get was protocol not supported error from Window Media Player (I tried many times throughout the 2 hours... rebooted... Had no problem connecting to other forms of streaming audio or video...) Any thoughts?

Looking forward to hearing the rerun...

Hm. I don't know what the deal was. I'm going to be examining the logs to see how to tweak the server. Although I haven't had any other bad reports yet.

I had the same connection problem...Cant way to get it when it comes online.

Thanks you Carl

I just glad I was so quick to remember System.Net.DNS. I sometimes astound myself with my memory. ;-)

Hmmm, that should "I'm just" rather than "I just". Sometimes a also astound myself with my inability to use my native language beyond a 3rd grade level. :(

LOL. Hey, if anyone else had this connection problem, please tell me. I want to see if there's a connection limit imposed by default. It definitely wasn't a bandwidth problem. We have 10Mbits

I couldn't connect, either, but I'm fairly certain my corporate firewall/proxy was to blame. So +1 on the idea of a nighttime show.

As you know should know Carl, no one ever "Rocks" at noon. All good rocking happens late at night. So I second that.

Besides, the only thing better than a geek call-in program would be a drunken geek call-in program.

See the link for comment

Rob: I didn't see anything in that PowerPoint about how to encrypt passwords for storage in a database if anyone is interested. I wrote up a very short "how to" about hashing them in ASP.NET. It just uses the FormsAuthentication hashing method, but I think it works pretty well.

http://www.lazycoder.com/article.php?story=20040130162602331

I did a post on my blog awhile back about Cryptography and wanted to ask Dan.
http://ipattern.com/simpleblog/PermLink.aspx?entryid=19

Patterns are cool!

www.ipattern.com do you?

Enjoyed the show. Downloaded Skype but forgot to pick up a headset so missed out on the prizes. I was listening in UK so the show was on at 5.00pm which was fine for me. Still missing Mark's laid back drawl but Rory was a worthy replacement. Very amusing... Nice one gentlemen...

Maxim's Post is much better than my post. Much more detail. :)

Think of mine as a sprig of parsley on the plate of Maxim's post. It's just there for decoration, you can eat it but it's not very filling. Maxim's is a meal.

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Scott and Max: Sorry I should have checked the download from Pat's talk. There is a slide there where he did the Random Salt demo but I guess he didn't supply the demo project.

I found this link that explains the process and has demo code.

http://www.sys-con.com/dotnet/article.cfm?id=487

Live is GREAT! Listener interaction adds an exciting new element to the show. I would like to see this become a regular event.

I listened to almost the entire show from Argentina. Excelent as always.
Do you know how many people were connected?

The most we ever had at one time was 81 listeners. I think that's pretty good for blogs and email being the only advertising.

It was a pleasure being on the show. Just wanted to add a comment about passwords.

Hashed passwords are a great way to store passwords. The one problem with them is, if you have a site where you allow a user to recover a password (have it emailed to them after some verification process), it won't work - because you don't have the original password either.

Personally, I'd suggest staying with hashed passwords and using the approach of sending out a newly created random password once the user verifies (and ask them to change it).

But if you must return the actual password, you'll need to use symetrical encryption. This means storing the master key locally on the server - meaning it's vulnerable. But at least you make things more difficult, in that someone would have to steal both the password database and the private key in order to see the passwords.

Awesome show guys, one of the best flowing shows yet. Late should would be good and that way won't have to get up at 4am to listen :)

I was one of the 82, and I find it hard to believe we were so few. Could it be because of the time? Anyway, I'm confident it's going to be a success in the future.

Gabriele -

It turns out that we actually had a couple hundred people tune in, but just not at the same time - the peak *simultaneous* users was 82, but not the total across the board.

We found that out a day after the broadcast, so that's cool :)

For those of you who got

protocol not supported error from Windows Media Player

what you need to do is find
the button that says "turn
off SSL" and check that.

j/k

marco

LOL