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My first 2-hours look at XAMLON

Yesterday night, I installed XAMLON and began playing with it, since I had some free time in my hotel room. First of all, a usefull advice: when you will install XAMLON on your machine, make sure you have an internet connexion available, otherwise, you'll have to retype the registration key each time you recompile the samples.

First quick feedback: I've been quite deceived that there are so few samples with the beta (the sample viewer application - which is  itself a SAML app - and two samples), and absolutely no documentation. So, one cannot guess what is or isn't implemented in this current Beta. As a result, both simple "Hello World!" samples from the PDC refused to work, since the TextPanel does't seem to be implemented :-( Too bad. Let's wait for a future more complete beta.

On the other hand, I wondered which was the goal of this company providing a XAML implementation on .NET, which sooner or later will compete with Longhorn's Avalon. I saw two opportunities:

  • Avalon means Longhorn only. XAML on .NET may be an option for ISVs to write XAML applications and allow them to run on any machine supporting the .NET Framework 1.1, typically Windows 2000 and XP.
  • What if the XAMLON guys manage to have their tool running on Mono? Put in simple words: Wouldn't XAML be a simpler GUI abstraction layer, allowing more easy UI application porting between Windows and Unix/X-Window?

Comments

JP Mica [MVP .net] said:

I guess option 2 could be quite useful..at least a lot more than the 1st one.

It seems that the lastest hotfixes for XP included "longhorn bits inside", so a xamlfx.exe could emerge someday ;)
# December 1, 2003 9:31 AM

DonXML Demsak said:

I've been saying the same thing about a vector graphics abstraction layer in Mono for a long time, but they didn't seem to get what I was saying. Now that they have seen XAML I hope they understand the benefits.

As for an open source version of XAMLON, the SharpVectors (www.sharpvectors.org) project is a logical place to start. It is an open source SVG rendering engine written in C# (that isn't complete), and it isn't too far of a jump from SVG to XAML. I've been documenting the differences between SVG and XAML on my blog, and hopefully I'll get enough interested volunteers to help launch an open source XAML rendering engine for .Net on non Longhorn machines.

DonXML Demsak
# December 1, 2003 9:46 AM

Robert McLaws said:

There is something to be said for "bridge products" that offer future technology today while having an obviously limited lifespan.
# December 1, 2003 5:05 PM

Iain said:

According to their website, XAMLON has nothing to do with avalon. It is an XAML-like contraption that you can use to drive windows.forms, so there's no reason why avalon samples ought to work.

http://66.27.62.90/index.html#whatxamlon
# December 2, 2003 2:56 AM
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