March 2003 - Posts
Yes, yes, and once again yes!
Clemens has the same opinion (in this case ;-)) in that
- the word 'Web' in Web Services should be dismissed as it confuses people too much. But we should find another one,
- Messaging is the way to think about [Web] Services (hey you non-HTTP transports: show up and get the party rolling!),
- UDDI is not as bad as nearly everybody thinks. UDDI has just been communicated in the wrong way to the customers. It is not about the super-duper automatically Web Servces shopping system - no! Use it wisely and you will love it. For some more clarification on how UDDI may be leveraged Clemens refers to the latest version of his SOA talk.
The only point I am still not quite with him (in terms of that it will be possible at all) is the thing about WSDL. But we will see :-)
This is a good Saturday ... our daughter got us up a 6.00 a.m., I had a short IM session with Clemens at around 7.45 with nice and positive news and now I will go into my real Saturday weekend life ...
Man, this is a really interesting weblog about Service Oriented Architectures [RSS] (well, Jeff, even talks about the Service Oriented Enterprise :-)). Just for the records: there are some people out there (including Jeff) who think that the choreography war is already fought and won. Just take BPEL - well this could be too easy to be true, perhaps.
I contacted Jeff's company Momentum Software and requested a trial version of their BPEL powered server engine ChoreoServer. So now I have three engines here lying around, two of them already working:
I know of at least two other engines/products in the chain ... but perhaps the vendors will comment on this soon ...
John is playing with WSE and obviously has a lot of fun :-)
He built a 'real world' application for managing forums through XML Web Services technologies. Currently he leverages WSE's user authentication capabilities through WS-Security but really plans more about it ... the future is bright!
Nice.
Collaxa's Orchestrating Web Services Developers Site is really cool! You not only can download their BPEL4WS enabled runtime Collaxa BPEL Orchestration Server (Java based) but there is also plenty of interesting articles and FAQs available.
In the article How do I call a Microsoft .Net Web service from a Collaxa BPEL Scenario? (need to register) the author shows how to call an ASP.NET XML Web Service (using the Microsoft TerraServer Web Service) from within an BPEL coordinated 'transaction'. Very interesting so far ...
For those interested: there is also a nice sample of integrating an Axis driven Web Service :-) and many more!
BTW, they also have an RSS feed!
Now all I want is a sneak preview of the next Microsoft BizTalk Server (or what they will call it) ...
Yasser is the latest voice in complaining that a lot of people and companies have not yet fully embraced what is actually behind Web Services (and the related XML based standards). Yes, you can use SOAP & Co. as just another RPC - but hey, this is not where its unbelievable potential is buried ... open your minds! Now!
For all those that are not sure what I am talking about, I would like to point them to an excellent presentation on Service Oriented Architectures (SAO) by Clemens!
Of course I have to admit that the proxy based RPC invocation pattern used in the ASMX stack is not the best means to teach the essentials of the SAO thing ... but time is a healer.
Update: after having gone through Clemens' slides once again I must admit that I like the term Service and Message Oriented Architectures a lot more! Especially when thinking of the related acronym: SaMOA :-)
Gudge, Don, Jeff and some other (non-MS) guys have been publishing a document on a Proposed Infoset Addendum to SOAP Messages with Attachments which presents a concrete realisation of the ideas laid out in the white paper XML, SOAP and Binary Data.
Just discovered this page here:
Interoperability Notes on Apache Axis 1.1 and Microsoft .NET Framework 1.0/1.1 Beta FAQ
It talks about some known interoperability issues when using the Apache Axis framework in Java implementaions and talking to .NET based XML Web Services (and vice versa). Really neat and useful!
Three boys and girls from Microsoft's Web Services team (in the broadest meaning of the word) have started a weblog. Welcome!
Martin 'Gudge' Gudgin
Jeffrey 'Jeff' Schlimmer
Rebecca 'Becky' Dias
Ah, and yes: Tim Ewald is finally back!
BTW, they are all blogging using Don's super-duper new wonderware powered by Infopath ;-)
Confusion, fear, anger, perplexity. These are all sentiments that I faced when people where coming to Microsoft's booth at the CeBIT computer show and asked about Palladium. NGSCB (aka Palladium) really seems to confuse people and customers. The even worse thing is that I currently do not know enough about NGSCB, its relation to TCPA and what especially Microsoft plans to incorporate into future Windows versions starting with Longhorn.
So I just have to find some free minutes, sit back and read about Palladium and then come back here to write my thoughts down ... comments/suggestions are welcome, as always. Hm, just found this article expressing Bruce Schneier's opinion about all this stuff. Very interesting.
Yeah I know that I am a bit late with that: Welcome Yasser to the blog world :-) I hope we can see a lot of exciting and interesting posts from Yasser Shohoud all talking about the wonderful world of XML Web Services development at Microsoft!
I met Yasser in Redmond some weeks ago and must really admit that he is a very kind and intellgent person - good pick, Microsoft :-)
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