Tweaking and Changing Things like the Kernel

Published 30 November 04 12:57 PM | despos

The Scobleizer posted and commented this: Linux lover says he "tweaks and changes" things. What amazes me is just the different perspective on "changing things" in the kernel. Robert wonders if they really do that (i.e., changing and tweaking things). I'd even go further and wonder if they really know what it means outside the single box. "No application is an island" Don Box said at PDC 2003. As long as your machine is an island, tweak and change those things... 

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# mschaef said on November 30, 2004 10:36 AM:

" I'd even go further and wonder if they really know what it means outside the single box. "

In point of fact:

Linux had TCP/IP in the OS before Windows.
Linux had multiple (possibly remote) users before Windows.
Linux had 'remote desktop' before Windows.
The most successful web server is currently open source.
The open source web server is currently enlarging its relative marketshare, compared to IIS. (Which netcraft has as the same market share now as in 1997)
Socially, Linux's networking tradition extends back to the origins ot the Internet. Window's networking tradition extends back to Windows for Workgroups 3.1. ;-)

I think that it's pretty clear that the OSS community understands the implications of networking and distributed applications pretty well.

# jdavidson said on November 30, 2004 01:48 PM:

These operating system turf wars are always funny to me. Are we really trying to proselytise folks to choose Windows or Linux? Isn't the choice the best tool for the job depending on cost, budget, HR constraints, capability, etc. A world with only Windows or only Linux would be like a world with only Pepsi or only Coke. We take ourselves way to seriously in this community.

Remember though, mschaef, Open Source is definitely a wonderful thing but it hasn't paid my bills as of yet.

What I really wonder is why folks our tweaking and changing kernels when people still deploy production applications using SELECT * - this is of greater concern I think.

# Casey Marshall said on December 1, 2004 08:58 AM:

Sounds kind of like you have a bit of open-source envy there :)

Why would tweaking and changing things be mutually exclusive with interacting with the outside world?

I mean, yeah, I could see some tweaks breaking things, but other tweaks could be really awesome innovations that change the way we network.

Are you envious that this innovation might happen on Linux instead of Windows?

Casey

# bliz said on December 2, 2004 08:45 PM:

mschaef, I believe you're missing the point of Dino's post (and of Scoble's post) (not to put words in Dino's mouth, but this is my take)....

Re-read Scoble's post... he talks about all the regression testing that's involved when changes are made to the Windows kernel. If a person could tweak and change things then release it to the world without regression testing things, systems would come to a quick halt. Doesn't matter if it's the Windows kernel or a Linux kernel.

So if you're tweaking things in the Linux kernel for your own purposes - cool, go for it. Just don't expect everyone to hop on the bandwagon and install it. If you're an island the only one you'll affect is yourself.

my 2 cents....

# sonnerie polyphonique said on December 14, 2004 07:15 AM:

verry good

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