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&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7253814" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Crushed by complexity—me too, and for a long time</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/despos/archive/2009/11/12/crushed-by-complexity-me-too-and-for-a-long-time.aspx#7253419</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:13:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:7253419</guid><dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator><author>Fred</author><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, you really are right. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The learning curve increases and the time between the various versions decreases. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Furthermore, we need money and time to be able to live with family and friends. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoy the things that give us pleasure is the fuel that moves us to new discoveries. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hugs from Brazil. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fred&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7252909" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Crushed by complexity—me too, and for a long time</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/despos/archive/2009/11/12/crushed-by-complexity-me-too-and-for-a-long-time.aspx#7252892</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:01:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:7252892</guid><dc:creator>Bryant</dc:creator><author>Bryant</author><description>&lt;p&gt;CD's of the Crushed By Complexity talk that was recently delivered in Nashville were distributed here (DevConnections 2009) last night with the conference T-Shirt. I'm sure that there are plenty of extras to go around.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7252824" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: ASP.NET MVC is MUCH better than MS seems to think</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/despos/archive/2009/11/11/asp-net-mvc-is-much-better-than-ms-seems-to-think.aspx#7252132</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:16:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:7252132</guid><dc:creator>despos</dc:creator><author>despos</author><description>&lt;p&gt;@Dan&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MS is certainly aware that the big drawback for MVC to attract all developers is the lack of a component model for the view. However, if MS or vendors create just that the total control over markup will be progressively lost. Not having a clear idea of the optimal strategy--and not having anybody in the community a neat proposal--MS postpones any push to better times. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It's a nice discussion whether we should ask or not for a component model in MVC. I think so; the guys who absolutely want to control their own markup are OK with today's HTML helpers. The others can have a simpler life. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So MS may be OK to hold. Developers, instead, should move towards MVC, or at least make &amp;nbsp;a serious effort to understand it. Web Forms is de facto deprecated--whatever MS says. Architecturally deprecated. BUt this is a natural fact. Web Forms is 10 years old and was designed to address different needs. MVC has a more modern design and meets today's needs. &amp;nbsp;Waiting for an official word from MS, wake up and understand it :) Understand, not just get used to it ... &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7252132" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: ASP.NET MVC is MUCH better than MS seems to think</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/despos/archive/2009/11/11/asp-net-mvc-is-much-better-than-ms-seems-to-think.aspx#7252129</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:09:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:7252129</guid><dc:creator>despos</dc:creator><author>despos</author><description>&lt;p&gt;@Michael, @Jon&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You're right that MVC makes it easier/better to deal with raw HTML; it is kind of incorrect that you have to choose MVC if you want to control HTML. As Jon pointed out in WebForms you still get a lot of extra stuff even with minimal runat=server. But on the other hand MVC doesnt use any form of controls. If you plain HTML plus code blocks in Web Forms it'll work like in MVC. In my opinion the correct statement is: ASP.NET MVC makes it easier and less painful to control your HTML. This results mostly from neat separation between processing and rendering.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=7252129" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: ASP.NET MVC is MUCH better than MS seems to think</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/despos/archive/2009/11/11/asp-net-mvc-is-much-better-than-ms-seems-to-think.aspx#7251511</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:32:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:7251511</guid><dc:creator>Raghuraman</dc:creator><author>Raghuraman</author><description>&lt;p&gt;Dan,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are partly correct that ASP.NET MVC is much better than what MS seems to think. But at the end of it ASP.NET MVC is good and slim, but it is a &amp;quot;one step back&amp;quot; for those comfortably placed with Webforms application.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is another tool for getting the work done. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We never think of complexities while still at the drawing board.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is too early for MS to put all of the weight behind MVC.&lt;/p&gt;
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