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Microsoft: Thank You For Asking For Our Advice!

To counter Frans Bouma's perspective on Microsoft's employees using the weblogging medium to ask for the community's feeback, I'd just like to say I love it. I think it's the greatest thing that can happen for all of us. Why? Well, like it or not (I happen to like it), most of us leverage Microsoft's technologies on a day to day basis to make our businesses work. Even if you don't work with Microsoft technologies in your shop, you're likely to need to integrate with shops that do. Therefore if we can provide feedback that will help shape a technology that we'll have to use for the next ten years to make it easier for us to work with, then that's an awesome opportunity to be presented with.

The important thing to realize here is, you don't have to participate in this feedback process. Nobody's forcing anyone to speak their mind or hand over an algorithm. Why is this any different than me asking for help for something that's going to help me with my company? I mean, we know why, it's Microsoft and they're evil, but seriously... step back and think about the situation more objectively. Also, if you think you've got what it takes to work at Microsoft and would like to contribute in a more concrete way to one of these projects, just send them your resumé! I'm pretty sure they're always looking to hire great minds.

Finally, I hope it's clear that I don't entirely disagree with Frans. It would make very little sense for someone who is working on a competing technology to offer their feedback on Microsoft's version. That said, I don't think Microsoft expects someone like Gerald Bauer, of XUL fame, to offer guidance on Avalon technology. If anything, they should expect pushback (and lots of it). However, even that should challenge them to think differently about their choices.

Posted: Dec 09 2003, 01:41 PM by drub0y | with 7 comment(s)
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Distane for Microsoft said:

Frans' major heart burn with Microsoft is not the query for feedback at all. He is upset at Microsoft because they are including an O/R Rapper with their product. Instead of taking aim at Microsoft, he should try to build a better product and out do them./

Just my 2 cents.
# December 9, 2003 2:26 PM

Frans Bouma said:

"Distane for Microsoft": use your full name or don't post at all. And you seem to know more about me than myself, while I don't even know you.
# December 9, 2003 2:34 PM

Frans Bouma said:

I've removed the blog entry, because some people got that much upset that they started acting like children: posting comments under my name in other blogs, flooding my blog with crapcomments which I then had to delete....

Never knew MS had Linux Advocate-like people as their fans.
# December 9, 2003 2:45 PM

Drew Marsh said:

Frans,

That's completely insane. I'm sorry to hear that you've removed the blog entry as you certainly have every right to your opinion.
# December 9, 2003 2:49 PM

Sam Gentile said:

Drew, for the record, I completely agree with you and was going to take a stand on this issue. From my standpoint of nearly 20 years with Microsoft, this is the *first* time that Microsoft developers have gone to this length to solicit input from the Microsoft development community. This is exactly the opposite of how they have been and thousands have complained they don't care; they just build what they want; they don't listen to feedback and now they are completly doing that and people complain still.

From my standpoint, this is *exactly* what I wanted: direct access to the developers and PMS influencing the products I use every day and will use in the near future. I must add that many of these developers have stuck their necks out at great risk to do this and change the culture from within to be more open. How can this be anything but a win? No one is forcing anyone to give advice. But you better believe that early adopters and architects like myself *want* to influence product design.
# December 9, 2003 4:20 PM

Sam Gentile said:

Yikes, that should be PMs not PMS
# December 9, 2003 4:21 PM

Tim said:


Hi,
Good work, Keep it up.
# December 13, 2003 6:23 AM
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