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[OT] Managed Care Rant

Let me preface this by saying that I am sick.  Not a little sick, like a cold or the flu, but really sick.  Life threatening sick.  Thus, my level of patience with the managed care system may well be even more limited than normal.  I consider this reasonable: When you are really sick, and there are people who appear set on preventing you from trying to stay as well as you are or getting a little better, you are likely not to like them.

 

Further, I have had illnesses all my life that have made me averse to managed care.  I have a rare disease that pre-disposes me to a number of unusual illnesses.  Your average physician is not aware of the possible difficulties, there is no chance a clerk or an RN at a managed care company will understand the details of my disease.  For instance, desmoids tumors are frequent complications of my disease.  They are "benign," however my niece died of complications from a desmoid tumors at age 20.  I pay more not to have to get any referrals.  Sadly, a CT scan needs a "Pre-Certification."

 

On Friday, January 27th, my doctor wanted me to get a CT the following week (week of January 30th).  My doctor is a very good doctor, Chief of the Gastric and Mixed Tumor Service at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, a pretty good cancer center.  He felt it was important for me to get a CT this week.  Initially, I was only able to get an appointment only for the following week (9:30 PM on the 9th), however, the doctor's office said they would try to do better.

 

On Tuesday, January 31st (late) I got a call about a moved up CT, now scheduled for February 2nd at 2:40 p.m., arrive at 1:40 p.m.  On February 1st in the AM, my doctor's office faxed the requested information to Care Core National (who manages imaging issues for Aetna NJ).  This was the first of three times this information was sent.

 

On February 2nd, I called Care Core National first thing and was told that my doctor's office had not sent the requested information.  I called my doctor's office again and they assured me that they had sent the information to the correct number, and had a confirmation that it arrived the prior morning.  I called a number of times trying to get Care Core National to acknowledge that they had the fax, but was eventually forwarded to a "supervisor," a Ms. Rivera.  Ms. Rivera suggested that if I had the physician fax the information once more (a third time) marked as Urgent, perhaps it would be read within an hour or two.  Otherwise, it might take 4-6 hours or longer for the other faxes to get read.  Note that the person who forwarded me to Ms. Rivera when I requested a supervisor implicitly lied, as Ms. Rivera supervises no one.

 

At this point, I assured them this was not a vanity CT.  I am trying to stay out of the hospital, trying to stay off of IV nutrition at home, and for all these reasons, it was critical to do the CT when my doctor felt it was important.  I called back as I drove the 2 hours into Memorial Sloan Kettering, and was told that, in spite of the fact that my doctor considered my need for a CT scan Urgent, someone who was not a physician, likely an RN, at Care Core National had determined that I did not meet their criteria for Urgent, and they could not tell me what those criteria were.

 

I eventually got to the first level supervisor's supervisor (a Mr. Robinson) via voice mail and left a message explaining the circumstances, the degree of my illness and how his organization has made this difficult time so much more difficult.  I never heard back from Mr. Robinson (he says he called twice, but never left a message).  I called him, and he offered no real insight into how someone who is very sick should go about getting a CT when only a day or so in advance was possible due to hospital scheduling and patient need.  I asked for information regarding lodging a formal complaint, but never got any answer.  I assured him that his organization had ticked off their worst nightmare: A sick guy who can write and speak with time on his hands.

 

Aetna, by the way, washes their hands of all of this, saying that they contract to Care Core National, and even when they disagree with details of a case, they can do nothing.

 

As a postscript, I eventually did get pre-certs for both scans (less than 24 hours after I actually had them).  I am now told by Mr. Robinson that these pre-certs will be applied to the scans from yesterday.

 

Is this the way we want desperately sick people to spend their time?  As a society, is this compassionate care?  A patient with a life threatening illness, doing the best he possibly can for himself to stay out of the hospital and off of other expensive therapies must waste a precious day of his life fighting for what he pays a great deal of money for.  I hear you saying, "Well, you are sick, you must use your insurance a lot."  Of course I do.  I have no choice in the matter, I do not smoke, I do not drink.  Prior to some recent surgery, I ate a normal American diet, which is to say likely too much, but otherwise lead a normal life.  At the same time, I buy car insurance, and have not used it in many years.  I have homeowners insurance that I am pretty certain I have not used in this century, and probably not the last decade of the last century.  That is the point of insurance, you share risks.  I am a terrible risk with respect to health insurance, a much better risk with respect to car and homeowners insurance.  That is what Insurance should be doing.

 

Comments

Gayle Chardavoyne said:

You go Doug! Our healthcare system is a disgrace. There is no way to get service from these managed care jerks. Some doctors/nurses have found ways to get around them for my mother, but it takes a very creative mind. I will start writing to congress and the usual suspects to register my outrage at a system that takes advantage of the seriously ill. In the meantime, I totally admire Jean's persistence and successin dealing with these white collar criminals.

Gayle
# February 3, 2006 7:47 PM

Douglas Reilly said:

In this specific case, the setup is particularly insidious, because the outsourcing by Aetna to Care Core National gives each organization an out. Aetna says "We don't handle this - it is up to Care Core National," and Care Core National says "We are doing what Aetna contracted us to do." In any event, the patient is penalized for things he has no control over - like the physician properly getting clinical information, and the managed care company responding to it in a timely fashion. In my case, 24 hours after the first fax was sent, Care Core National was telling me they had no fax.

I am the poster boy for someone needing a CT scan. I have cancer, I am starting chemo next week. Even if my doctor had no other good reason for wanting a CT done this week (and he did), just as a baseline to determine if chemo is working it would have been worth it. It would, in that way, *help* in managing my care, to know what the chemo is or is not doing to help my health.

They make me crazy.
# February 3, 2006 8:27 PM

Kathy Gattermeir said:

Amen, AND Amen! I am a member of the GS/FAP forum at Yahoo and followed your link to read your "rant."

I too am sick and tired of the way the USA medical system works (does not work is more like it)and am still astonished by the insensitivity of those medical professionals and the staff they hire. You'd think they expect NEVER to be sick!

It's not as if anyone chooses this horrible disease that few doctors know anything about. My husband's doctor had to do an emergency surgery to remove a five-pound desmoid tumor in my hubby's abdomen that ruptured and nearly killed him this past September. I'm still amazed at the many doctors my husband has seen since then who blatantly say they know nothing about FAP and indicate they have no intention of finding out about the disease!

I am especially upset with my husband's former doctor who is a two-hour drive away and wrote off my husband because he wasn't "allowed" to treat him on Labor Day when everything was closed down, including much of the local hospital's emergency services!!! The oncologist that the doctor who did the surgery referred my husband to removed my husband from the two medications he was on, saying he didn't want to subject my husband's body to "unknown" medications that he could not monitor. In other words, there is nothing being done for my husband and the prognosis will be certain death if another huge desmoid is now growing in his body! Of course, I'm just a wife and cannot demand that my husband see someone else to help him with this disease. However, he's written a will and made his wishes known in connection with his three grandchildren who have a 50/50 chance of getting FAP. His daughter, the mother's children, has it already. Hopefully she'll not have to leave her children motherless as did my husband's sister's children when she was in her 20's!

Unfortunately we cannot educate people who refuse to be educated, nor can we force empathy on those insensitive people who apparently are only doing a "job." Time was when health care providers were called to their vocations. Now the high wages attract only those moneygrubbers who don't give a fig about humanity.

All sick people have a right to rant since that's the only way anyone pays attention to them. I agree that precious time in fighting GS/FAP on a daily basis should not have to be spent in trying to get insensitive, ignorant people to do their jobs right.
# February 5, 2006 6:30 PM
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