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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://weblogs.asp.net/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Getting to grips with MVC</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/garrypilkington/archive/2008/04/28/getting-to-grips-with-mvc.aspx</link><description>A few posts back I listed goals I wished to achieve over the next six months. Currently I am looking in to the Microsoft MVC Framework. I have started by watching Scott Hanselmans' four screen casts over at www.asp.net , these give a pretty good introduction</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007 SP1 (Build: 20510.895)</generator><item><title>re: Getting to grips with MVC</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/garrypilkington/archive/2008/04/28/getting-to-grips-with-mvc.aspx#6707737</link><pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:01:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:6707737</guid><dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator><author>Iain</author><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;MVC is a pattern, is well documented and has in fact been around since at least the early 80's. ASP.Net MVC is a framework developed solely for asp.net from Microsoft.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is a point that needs to be stated more often!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MVP/MVC have been used in webforms by many of us for ages. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, I do see the need for MVC(framework); to fill the accessibility and support for web standards void that web forms misses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, those of us who need to build B2B, highly functional, web based applications with a very select audience, these things don't matter as much as the rich hierachy model of web forms. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=6707737" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Getting to grips with MVC</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/garrypilkington/archive/2008/04/28/getting-to-grips-with-mvc.aspx#6141307</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:28:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:6141307</guid><dc:creator>bobo</dc:creator><author>bobo</author><description>&lt;p&gt;REST and testing for regular web forms in framework 4 info is from MS employees mouth (not officially)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=6141307" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Getting to grips with MVC</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/garrypilkington/archive/2008/04/28/getting-to-grips-with-mvc.aspx#6140374</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:22:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:6140374</guid><dc:creator>capgpilk</dc:creator><author>capgpilk</author><description>&lt;p&gt;@bobo - Thanks for your comments. Personally I am just looking into MVC to see what it is all about, I guess time will tell wether it is a success or not. I didn't know about testing for regular web forms in framework 4. Do you have any web links I can look at?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://weblogs.asp.net/aggbug.aspx?PostID=6140374" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Getting to grips with MVC</title><link>http://weblogs.asp.net/garrypilkington/archive/2008/04/28/getting-to-grips-with-mvc.aspx#6139767</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:01:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">c06e2b9d-981a-45b4-a55f-ab0d8bbfdc1c:6139767</guid><dc:creator>bobo</dc:creator><author>bobo</author><description>&lt;p&gt;MVC is USELESS bacause:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) No REACH user controls without page state support. MVC web is DEAD on arrival!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) Easy teastability coming to REGULAR web forms, wait for framework 4. If you can not wait use custom MVP.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3) In M$ one hand does not know what other does, buy YHOO, sell MVC, buy MVP, sell all, buy MOSS... blaa&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NOF said! &lt;/p&gt;
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