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Scoble screwed up, and won't man up about it

Robert Scoble annoys me. I used to enjoy reading his blog, but it has gone to a point where he really thinks he has all the answers and is the smartest blogger on the Net, masked thinly by the occasional self-deprecating comment or whatever.

But now he got booted off of Facebook because he was using an automated script to take all of the contact information from his 5,000 friends and dump it into Plaxo. Are you seeing the irony here? This is the same guy who called out Zuckerberg at Facebook for screwing with people's privacy and not owning up to it. Are you kidding me?

Here's the big news flash, Scoble... I added you as a friend to see what you were up to, not so you could suck out even my name and e-mail and put it in some other system. Why do you think I'd be OK with that?

Facebook should drop you out on your ass. You screwed up. Now admit it, the way you expect everyone else to when they screw up. 

Comments

Luke said:

I am confused.  Why do you not limit access to your Facebook profile if you do not want someone to have access to your email address?  You compare what Scoble did to Beacon, but there was no consent with Beacon, like there was with making your profile available to "friends".  Is this some weird form of "you can see, but you cannot have"?

# January 6, 2008 6:32 AM

Jeff said:

I don't give him consent to copy my contact information to another service. Which part of that is hard to understand?

# January 6, 2008 9:14 AM

Luke said:

I don't see where the line is.  Is it unethical for me to look up a friend on Facebook, friend him/her, then copy his/her contact information into my mail client?  Let me assume you object to _automating_ this process, although the difference is dubious.   In particular, in the Facebook terms of service [1]:

"In addition, you agree not to use the Service or the Site to:"

...

"use automated scripts to collect information from or otherwise interact with the Service or the Site;"

Curiously, the Gmail program policies [2] contains the following tidbit:

"In addition to (and/or as some examples of) the violations described in Section 3 of the Terms of Use, users may not:"

...

"data mining any web property (including Google) to find email addresses"

Wait a second!  Does Facebook violate that policy by allowing the importation of Gmail data?

[1] http://facebook.com/terms.php

[2] www.google.com/.../program_policies.html

# January 7, 2008 12:09 AM

Jeff said:

Your mail client isn't another social networking service, now is it?

# January 7, 2008 12:17 AM

Luke Breuer said:

Now you are changing the goalposts, from "some other system" to "another social networking service".  What happens when the line blurs between mail client and social network services?  After all, Facebook does provide a fairly simple but elegant messaging system, with a very usable (in my humble opinion) system for adding people to the "To:" list.  I could even see some people as using it purely for the messaging.  For these people, is there any real difference between Facebook and Gmail?

I suggest that, regardless of whether what Scoble did was right (I would probably consider his actions slightly unethical, but I would not come down like a ton of bricks on him), we all need to be more careful of what data we make public.  If you take a look at the Facebook terms of service, they are a bit shocking.  To paraphrase, "We don't take any responsibility for hackers stealing all the data you provide us."  Being more careful of who gets our data completely short-circuits issues such as the Scoble-Facebook-Plaxo one.  If solving the problem noted here is the goal, I suggest this.  If it is to point out hypocrisy, I think there are better targets more worth your or my time.

# January 7, 2008 8:05 AM
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