When Apple fanboy developers attack!

Yikes, check out the comments following Jesse Ezell's post about tinkering with the iPhone SDK. That's a little tough to read. I'm happy to admit I'm an Apple fan, with a Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, two iPods, an iPhone and an AppleTV. They've got me. Heck, my two-year-old MBP is randomly shutting off and I find myself apologizing for Apple.

But what is with these asshole zealots? I didn't find anything particularly lazy or wrong with Jesse's post at all. I'm a .NET dev too, and have been since the beta days, which makes it the bulk of my career as a code monkey. Learning anything but Java would be a bit of an adjustment for me. So if I were to make a similar endeavor, I'd probably have many of the same concerns. And if the people in the know would call me names and tell I'm stupid, well, that doesn't exactly make me want to jump in and take hold.

I mean, you've got some guy going on about how Intellisense is a trademark. Yeah, no kidding, but who cares? It's a good idea, and one that has been immitated on other platforms. Anyone used to it knows that it makes coding faster and saves trips to the documentation, and sometimes even leads you to class library features you didn't know about. Responding with, "just learn it" is not the way to advocate the platform.

I love this big shiny aluminum quad box next to my monitor, but why is it that the developer "community" associated with it is so toxic? Help the brother out, don't kick him in the nuts.

10 Comments

  • Shrug. Seems to happen any time I mention I like the way Microsoft tools work better than competitor XYZ. funny thing is that I actually take the time to evaluate the other tools and work with them before posting my thoughts, because I'm usually pretty excited about new technologies regardless of whether or not they are made by Microsoft. If someone would come out with better tools, I'd totally make the jump, but I'm still waiting...

  • I'm all for helping out a fellow developer, but he's not asking for help; it was a post-coding session gripe. He got gripes back. I'm not surprised.

  • You just graduated from college, and Jesse has been at least blogging about .NET for five years, and probably working professionally for even longer. Get off my lawn!

    I don't see gripes, I see observations.

  • Remember tantrum you threw after reading a Ars Technica article? You fanboys/"asshole zealots" are all the same... But you are in addition, a hypocrite.

  • Oh, because that guy was totally credible and not writing off an entire platform based on arbitrary flamebait. That's just like Jesse's post, which mostly says, "I don't think the tools are where they should be."

    Sure, it's just like that. Thanks for reading that which you can't stand.

  • To be fair it was an incredibly shallow post. It is quite obvious he only gave the tools a glance. One can hardly expect critics to put in more effort than the creator. He didn't even figure out the code completion key command. He made fun of something in a video because he doesn't know KVC. KVC (key value coding) is integral to almost everything Cocoa does and it requires you to name your accessor methods a particular way. He obviously did not consider the advantages of the way Interface Builder writes out objects instead of generating code. Of course someone complaining about MVC was a new one too. Frankly, I doubt he spent more time using Xcode than he did writing the post.

    As is typical of Apple Dev Tool critics, he didn't even mention Shark or Instruments.

  • I find the backlash amusing. I never claimed to be an expert in iPhone dev, I said I had been "playing" with the SDK and mentioned my first impressions of the experience. People can't handle a first impression that doesn't contain copious amounts of jizz aparently.

  • Hahahahaha. Yeah, I don't get that. I've done some playing as well and I've noticed some of the same things. I'm sure the language is easy enough to get used to, I was just non-impressed with the IDE. I've messed with Eclipse, and it became somewhat obvious quickly enough (and between it and VS, I imagine that's a huge percentage of the market), but Xcode... not so much.

    Hopefully, Apple is smart enough to see jizz-free first impressions and react to them. Because, guess what, first impressions matter and you've gotta sell yourself.

  • Those comments were very entertaining to read ;-)

  • his post did state that it was just an overview, over a weekend. So i fail to see how anybody expected anything more.

    it was a .net developers peek into a new toolkit. he didnt deserve some of the bitter flamings that followed.

    a very interesting .net read that upset quite a few .macs!

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