What piracy is not

re: What piracy is not

Jake — Wed, 28 May 2008 23:56:01 GMT

You dare me to answer that? O.K. then, how's this for an answer;

If i want it, i'll take it, O.K.?

No i wouldn't go into a shop and steal, because i will get caught, right?

But with trackers like The Pirate Bay, its so damn easy!

£10 for a CD, or £0? Let me think about that for a minute.

I go to concerts, movies, and i buy console games.

I pay the big companies wages!

All I, and millions of other pirates are doing, is taking what is rightfully ours.

The only reason that piracy is such a big issue nowadays is because companies know that the times when they can charge extortionate prices for items that cost pennies to make are coming to an end, and I for one welcome the change, and assist in ushering it in by seeing things i want, and taking them. Great, no?!

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re: What piracy is not

Sam — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:54:11 GMT

Having lived for twenty years as someone that was only copying the odd cassette for friends, the getting of a computer unleashed a side to me I didn't realize I had. On the one hand I feel compassion for those that put in much work, and then live with the thought that their work is being enjoyed by some that have not paid for it. On the other hand I've been a thinker most of my life, and from a philisophical point of view, I think the internet has given people a chance to start putting life's record straight.

People didn't express their natural desire to experience something without any thought of money when the internet wasn't around. They can now, and the evidence shows that they do. Stuck in the middle of this is the angry developer. But I know that life can be ruthless whilst change is occurring. The future, as far as I can see, is that we will need to rethink the whole idea of bartering/money as a way of experiencing life's pleasures.

Would it really solve anything if laws get really tough on internet piracy? Will it really make people see that they were "wrong" to download that bit of software or music? I don't think so. Laws never really capture the natural inner motivation. Those on top, and able to make laws will obviously want to profit from that situation. Now the internet is balancing out the idea that someone can invent CDs and charge a fortune for reissuing old songs, becuase something else has cvome along to offer the user an alternative, a free one.

This legal market and underworld market is not just about who gets the cake. It is also fuelled by some hard to express desire that we are here, not to struggle and have to make money before we can experience, but that Here and Now can be worked out amicably between all people, meaning we can find a system where someone won't feel left out because they cannot afford to keep up. In the larger scheme of things I do feel more compassion for the down and outs, the poor etc, than I do for upset developers.

From all this angst I think people will see the light. As has been stated, it is not the answer to hold 75% of a nation's population accountable for a law that obviously isn't in touch.

So, piracy is not the end of the road, but the energy it sometimes takes to re-shuffle a pack, whether so called crackers are aware of what they are really doing or not.

re: What piracy is not

Judge and Jury — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:57:51 GMT

Those of you that believe that piracy is theft have it wrong. If it were truly theft then why call it piracy? It is a contention of "The Man" to keep his wallet fat. First point. You open the software no return policy. What other industry has this perk. Drive a car off the lot & cant return it..COME ON.

What about poetry. Ever read a poem to anyone. Did you send the artist a check?

With technology comes change. Was the car not the rip of a covered wagon? Good thing someone didnt patent the 4 wheels idea. No other software is hacked more than MSoft. Bill made 34 billion this year. If stealing truly has this result rip me off now please.

What is piracy is not important

B111 64t35 — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:09:00 GMT

I never buy software. It's free on the net (IRC). Why should I? I just keep it at home and never bring it into work. Well almost never. I only use it for educational purposes. Since I'm almost poor it's just a matter of survival for me. I have no choice but to learn my trade using software and I am not going to pay for it - no way. I live underground and always will. Never file for taxes. Never pay for software. No drivers license and no insurance. Haven't had insurance in my entire lifetime. Duhhhhh - how do you think people lived before 1900???? How could they have survived without insurance? lol Dont need that either. Since I have no assets no one thinks of suing me and wouldnt get anywhere if they did. I can skip town faster than you can say ? Where'd he go? But I am not wanted by the law - just a few bill collection agencies. I live and survive in spite of the system's weird laws. I skirt them and their cops. Haven't been caught in 30 years and intend to keep on keeping on this way forever. You really think MS is suffering because of me? I dont care. Let 'em suffer. lol Live and let live. Survive and prosper. No one leaves the planet alive so enjoy it while you can. Software or no software - who cares?

re: What piracy is not

Chad Myers — Thu, 05 Aug 2004 00:37:00 GMT

Oops, I mean:

"selling milk at $50 is tantamount to theft of the consumer [bilking them unnecessarily]"

not

"milk is tantamount to theft".

re: What piracy is not

Chad Myers — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 22:37:00 GMT

The problem is, software costs a lot to make, but it's value to the user is significantly less than what it costs.

So vendors try to charge what it costs to make and it's just ridiculous for consumers.

If milk vendors sold a gallon of milk for $50, people would steal milk and you know what, I'd probably think that was OK because pay $50 for milk is tantamount to theft.

Software vendors need to figure out how to not charge ridiculous amounts of money for software. Until then, people will steal.

$12-15 for a CD = bad
$200 for an OS = bad
$50 for a game = bad

re: What piracy is not

Zk — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:30:00 GMT

One last point. A young 'hobbyist' (let's say 15-20 years old) downloading a pirated copy of something like Photoshop or VisualStudio (3D Studio, Illustrator, whatever) is actually the best investment for the companies that make that software. Typically, money isn't really being lost at that time, since the chances of them buying it at that time are very slim, but there is a very real potential of money lost in the future when they're in now programming in Java instead of C# or in a position to recommend software purchases for a company. Or, worse.. they're working at Macy's instead of being a graphic designer.

This person will have experience and knowledge with something they normally wouldn't have been able to and that translates into cash for the software companies.

Where piracy actually hurts the software companies (for apps, not games), is when people mass produce copies and sell them or when companies don't buy the licenses they're required, etc.

Like I said earlier, the only reason I'm even in a position to buy my MSDN subscription, or recommend to my company that they buy X number of licenses for ColdFusion, Photoshop, VisualStudio, is because I had access to learn that software before I was ever able to purchase it. My early piracy earned all those companies way more money than they ever lost on me not buying their software to begin with (which, is $0 lost since I would never have been able to buy any of that originally.)

Not everyone learns in college.

re: What piracy is not

Steve — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:22:00 GMT

s/effectively increased/effectively decreased

"cost per game played had effectively increased" is backwards.