The new ASP.NET website - Jon Galloway

The new ASP.NET website

ASP.NET - Home - NewWe launched a major refresh of the ASP.NET website today. It was really exciting to be a part of the update process, working with lots of very talented people including Scott Guthrie and Scott Hanselman. It’s a pretty major update, including:

  • New site-wide design
  • Redesigned Home page and Getting Started sections which streamline the experience for those who are new to ASP.NET
  • Revised and updated content areas for both ASP.NET Web Forms and MVC
  • Reviewed, re-categorized, and where appropriate, archived tutorial and video content. That was a pretty major undertaking, as some of that content had been around since ASP.NET 2.0

As you’d expect, Scott Hanselman has a great overview of what’s changed site-wide, but I’d like to highlight a few areas I was most involved with – the MVC Content area and a major update to the Community Projects / Open Source page.

ASP.NET/MVC changes

The ASP.NET MVC section was the new kid on the block on the ASP.NET website, so the asp.net/mvc page had less of a visual change than many of the other top-level pages. A lot of the work was in streamlining and prioritizing content, so you can (hopefully) find what you want faster, and there are new video introductions like Scott’s How Best To Learn ASP.NET MVC.

Here’s what it used to look like – content links on top, blog posts on the bottom, book links on the right.

ASP.NET MVC - Old

In addition to cleaning up and updating the top content, we merged in the top asp.net/mvc/learn content now, and moved the blog content to the community page. This should increase the content relevance and point you towards more video / tutorial content by topic.

ASP.NET MVC - New

We made substantial changes to asp.net/mvc/learn. The previous page hit you with a wall of text and links, and the sub-pages were more of the same. It was a lot of information, but it wasn’t really categorized or prioritized in a way that helped you find what you were looking for. I reviewed literally hundreds of pages of content (video and tutorial) to categorize, pick the top content to feature on top level pages, and find outdated content that should be archived.

Here’s how the asp.net/mvc/learn page used to look:

Learn ASP.NET MVC - Old

Now that we’ve got the categories links on the asp.net/mvc page, they link to specific focus areas, like this asp.net/mvc/fundamentals page:

ASP.NET - Fundamentals - New

Keeping in mind that ASP.NET MVC 2 is due out soon, you should expect more changes here. For instance, I’ve been working hard on a new tutorial project with Scott Guthrie that will be finished soon, and I’ll be publishing a series of videos and tutorial articles covering that.

The new Open Source / Community Projects Page

ASP.NET - Open Source ProjectsHonestly, I’m most excited about one page in the site: the Open Source ASP.NET projects page. I got to run with this one, gathering input from a lot of open sourcey folks at Microsoft, compiling tons of links and project descriptions, and working with project owners when they didn’t have a published “Twitter pitch” description of their site published.

This page is not beautiful – it’s a long list of links and text. We’ve got some future changes to the site that will help us with the presentation, but as it is now, I’ll admit that it’s not a beautiful webpage.

And yet, it’s a thing of beauty. It made my day to see this kind of thing on Twitter: “Wow, an official Microsoft website listing open source tools for .NET. Didn’t think I’d see the day.” There’s a great open source community around ASP.NET open source, and it’s great to get the word out. This kind of thing is what the ASP.NET community is all about.

Yes, this kind of effort is fraught with peril. There are tons of .NET open source projects out there, how do we manage the list, adding relevant projects and keeping them updated as they change names every week (oh, you silly open source folk, you)? I’m still figuring that out. I was warned this would be a challenge, and I accept it wholeheartedly, because it’s important. The alternative – not doing the page because it’s hard – is much worse.

Let me know if I missed any that you think are important. I can’t add every project to the list, or it’ll grow large and useless, but I do want to make sure we capture a good sample.

Note: I put a lot of work into this page, but it wouldn’t have been part of this release without Terri Morton’s help. She really saw the value in it and helped push it through when it really could have slipped from this release – thanks, Terri!

Awesome? Awesomer.

Is the site perfect? No, it’s not. But I hope you’ll agree that it’s a lot better. We’ve got a lot more planned for this year, and this is the first step.

Published Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:11 AM by Jon Galloway

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# re: The new ASP.NET website

Just thought I'd mention www.cuyahoga-project.org. I find it a great CMS in the .net space.

Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:41 AM by jl

# re: The new ASP.NET website

Jon - I look forward to seeing the site move forward and this is certainly a great step to getting to where it should be.

ChrisNTR

Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:52 AM by Chris Hardy (ChrisNTR)

# re: The new ASP.NET website

Hi Scott,

Incredibly chuffed to find a link to my ASP.NET Cometh post series on the front page of the new site. Thanks very much for that. It's going to be a lot more than ten posts by the time I've finished. A couple of questions for you though.

1. Can I send you a mugshot so it can be up against the link rather than the .NET wave?

2. Could I suggest adding Programming ASP.NET 3.5 to the list of webforms books and removing the old .NET 2.0 version that's further down the page?

Thanks again,

Dan Maharry

Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:16 AM by Dan Maharry

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Hi Jon,

We would surely appreciate a listing for the open source mojoPortal CMS. mojoPortal has been actively developed since 2004 and is currently the 4th most popular download in the Microsoft Web Ap Gallery www.microsoft.com/.../gallery

Best Regards,

Joe Audette

Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:23 PM by Joe Audette

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# re: The new ASP.NET website

Nice work. My only two comments on the open source page:

1) Subtext gets top billing. I use it on my own blog, but it really isn't that active of a project. Not exactly the shining star of the bunch. No offense intended!

2) No mention of the new crop of NOSQL data-stores. MongoDB? www.mongodb.org/.../Home CouchDB?

Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:10 PM by Corey Henderson

# re: The new ASP.NET website

"New site-wide design"  Uhhh, perhaps I am color blind, but how can you possibly say this?  Everything is using the same basic wireframe with the same sickening color palette.  Sorry, but the site is just as much of an eyesore as it was before.

Most devs won't let a poor design take anything away from the quality of content (which is good), but for a better first impression, the site needs to look better.  MUCH better.

Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:02 PM by Josh Stodola

# re: The new ASP.NET website

Where can I find "Get a site design" section, in this new asp.net site?

Friday, March 12, 2010 4:47 AM by Rodrigo Guerreiro

# re: The new ASP.NET website

Hi Jon

Could you tell me,please, where the MVC Design Gallery is located ?

Thank you,

Friday, March 12, 2010 5:54 PM by ignatandrei

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# re: The new ASP.NET website

New site looks great, and its been built in the best CMS in the world... Umbraco :)

Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:36 AM by dotnet_lee

# re: The new ASP.NET website

I like the new site but the How Best To Learn ASP.NET MVC video crashed my Firefox and the Contact link at the bottom (http://www.asp.net/feedback/) doesnt't work.

Saturday, March 13, 2010 8:32 PM by rocky

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Jon, can you please add AtomSite to the new ASP.NET MVC open source CMS or Blog areas?

We are already in WebPI and would love to be included.  Nice upgrade to the ASP.NET website.

http://atomsite.net

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