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The End of IE Has Arrived

"Today marks the end of IE's domination in the browser space."

So today Microsoft announced that IE's renderer will default to "Standards Mode".  Remember this day.  The end of IE has arrived.  It was a good run.  Why, I remember the days of IE3 when simply rendering a form would result in a memory leak.  I will always have a soft spot in my heart for the XMLHttpRequest object that IE5 introduced.  And I remember when IE6 came out.  I think it was actually still IE5 except that it said it was "IE6".

What?!?  IE dead?

Yup.  Consider this:  The only reason people use IE is to browse stuff that works in IE.  For many web developers, that's Windows Update.  Other than that, there's really no reason to even load it up other than to test your website for IE's quirks.  Even Windows Update is moot, because Vista has made it clear that IE will not be the vessel that Windows Update will use anymore.  And once IE behaves like other browsers, you won't even need it to test your website.  That's right, see you later IE.

Consider this as well: Firefox has a plethora of addons.  IE will never match the sheer volume of these addons.  Even if tomorrow MS released a simple scripting language to compete with Firefox's, it would take a monumentous effort to translate all those addons for IE.  And I somehow have the feeling that the addon authors don't really care about providing a version for IE.  Of course, MS could just implement XUL for IE, but that's too obvious of a path, and MS has an amazing ability to rationalize any decision they make, however wrong. (and yes, I know about XUL for IE.  But it's ancient.  I almost expect to find the thing fossilized in the Burgess Shale bed next to a troglobyte).

Truth be told, standards adherence means absolutely nothing (yes, nothing) to the average web browsing individual.  It's the perception of improved security that Firefox offers that draws people in, and it's the addons that keep 'em interested.  The feature set of FF is so great, and IE so far behind, that the only way that MS will ever catch up is for Billy Gates himself to travel back in time and tell his past self to make a better browser.

But you didn't consider the Corporations!  They need ActiveX!  ActiveX!

Corporations don't decide standards.  They merely entrench them.  Firefox has XUL.  There's stll Java (via Java Web start, not applets), and even .NET apps via that .NET download thingy (I'd like to add Flash to the list, but then I'd feel dirty), so if you really, really need local access, it's still available.  It'll be a boon for us programmers anyhow.  Think of all the ActiveX apps we get to convert!

What's in it for Microsoft?

Part of me wants to think that someone at MS has thought this far and has realized that this is a fairly logical and likely outcome.  On the other hand this is the company that brought us Bob and that damned paperclip, so who knows.  But here's a scenario that could pan out:

Microsoft can't even sneeze without some governing body examining which brands of tissue paper they're using and making sure they're not buying too much of one brand.  MS getting out of the browser business would be a sign to those meddling powers that they're not interested in Ruling The World.  Why, they could even package Firefox with their OS.  Oh sure, they'll still have IE kicking around, but no one would use it.  It'll be like Notepad for the 21st century.

It's ironic, really.  By making IE more like the standard, they've actually removed any reason to keep IE around.  To most people, including developers, Firefox is good enough.

The Atrophy of the Web - Part II

Unfortunately for us, I believe that once Firefox does become the entrenched browser, all innovation will cease once again in the web space.  There's simply no incentive to progress.  But we'll leave that to another blog post... 

(And yes, this is my first post.  And no, I don't have an about me page yet.  But really, what's there to know that you care about?  Besides, I'm still trying to figure out how to use this thing.)

Comments

 

Chris Hammond said:

Rolmao so you think developers will just drop IE all together and use FF?

I must say, I got a good laugh out of your first post :D

March 3, 2008 11:25 PM
 

Shazam999 said:

Developers stopped using IE a long time ago.

March 3, 2008 11:37 PM
 

yoyo said:

That was just stupid

March 3, 2008 11:45 PM
 

tdavisjr said:

You know, sometimes I feel for Micrsoft. It's damn if you do, damn if you don't. They can't catch a break. Thats why they should continue to do what is in their best intrest; because poeple like you probably don't use IE anyways, so why even worry anymore.

March 4, 2008 1:12 AM
 

John Walker said:

Corporations? You can forget about ActiveX, but which of those corporations in their right mind is going to install Firefox, Opera, or Safari for Windows on those thousands and thousands of PC's? They'll stick with the automagically installed browser unless they're a glutton for punishment and like adding another app for their distros.

For the tech geek (like me) and the enthusiast, sure we'll install Firefox, but for the average user (like my dad) out there, they won't even know there's an option unless I stop by and install something else for them.

Did you even think this through before posting this, or is this linkbait. Oh, and I am a Firefox user.

March 4, 2008 2:26 AM
 

Shawn Oster said:

Bloody problem with the Internet, can never tell if people are being sarcastic or not.

Your average consumer that buys a computer at Best Buy could care less about any number of Firefox extensions and in fact most consumers won't touch an extension the same way they won't install an ActiveX that's not Flash or QuickTime.

IE8 now means the average consumer now has even *less* of a reason to switch.  Things will render correctly and it's even more secure and IE7 was already rock solid.  Heck, if I look at everyone I know; family, friends, dentists, board members, the receptionist, etc. only about 5% use Firefox.  Of that 5% that uses Firefox only maybe 3 or 4 people actually use any extensions.  Ask that non-Greasemonkey Firefox crowd and they finally admit that they "heard Firefox was more secure".  So basically just marketing and FUD.

I disagree with the ActiveX issue though, unless someone can tell me how to get to a printer handle for direct, pixel-level rendering of printed output for down to the mil placement there are a few ActiveX controls I know of that just aren't going away.

Personally I use IE7 simply because it looks better than Firefox, though obviously I love Firebug for stepping through Javascript, though even that's changing because of Visual Studio 2008.

Will be interesting to see the outcome, today is the day IE is back in the game.

March 4, 2008 2:42 AM
 

lfriend said:

ASP.NET Developers would get the boot if they didn't test their code in IE before releasing.  As a developer (I hope you are) you will know this.

March 4, 2008 4:32 AM
 

Joe Chung said:

IE isn't dead by a long shot, and, oh, you may want to check out WebKit, too.

March 4, 2008 5:01 AM
 

patrik.hagne said:

You show a remarkable lack of understanding of how the market works. Please, for your own good never do business.

March 4, 2008 5:24 AM
 

rrobbins said:

I've seen regular users switch to Firefox for two reasons. First, they pick up at lot of driveby malware as they browse using IE and they get tired of that. Second, Firefox is more stable when you are using things like Flash chatrooms with streaming video. Many users on social broadcasting sites get quite familiar with Firefox.

March 4, 2008 8:45 AM
 

Max said:

Yep, IE is at is end, no one uses it anymore - only about 75% of the users on average of the 100+ sites hosted on one of my servers use it - only 75% - pathetic...

March 4, 2008 9:38 AM
 

aa said:

75% is pathetic?

Still, only geeks use Firefox.

March 4, 2008 9:51 AM
 

dotjosh said:

IE comes with windows.  Even today, *most* people wouldn't know how or why to use a different browser.

March 4, 2008 11:39 AM
 

AndrewSeven said:

You seem to have passed over Chrome; Not everyone want a bunch of add-on, some of us just want a simple clean UI that lets us browse the web.

May 22, 2009 1:34 PM

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