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And if the team doesn't care about their project, then of course MS can just 'force' their way into the desktop. Unremovable MS msgr? An IE that is so far behind everything else in the market and so bug ridden that the internet community as a whole is worse off for it's existance. Oh, and the use of secret internal APIs to make other MS products work better then ISVs software is really good buiness tactics and perfectly acceptable.... assuming you don't work for the poor ISV that has been snufed out by the giant. Those sure help 'acceptance' of MS software don't they.

I think you didn't get my point.
I didn't say MS products are good (although I think so, but we can argue about this). I said they have a great success in the public. Notice: not the "developers" public, who can rant all day about IE bugs, but the normal public, those who use mainly Office and IE. They don't give a damn about the DHTML abilities of IE vs Mozilla. They don't care about the .NET capabilities of the Office 2003 or the programming model of the OpenOffice. All they want is a tool that is easy to use, and have a great UI consistency across all its features. And this, my friend, MS simply does best.