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All these product delays are making it harder to sell .Net to businesses

First of all I just wanted to express my sympathy to all the victims of the appalling bombings in Madrid, there is no excuse whatever your political, religious or other beliefs for wantom murder of innocent people whose only crime was to be travelling to work. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Secondly, I posted a comment to Frans Bourma's excellent piece(http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma/archive/2004/03/11/87836.aspx) on why the delays to Yukon should not delay the delivery of Whidbey. I would much rather that Microsoft released Whidbey this year. I thought the only technical connection between Yukon and Whidbey was the new System.Data.sqlServer namespace. I would suggest they leave this out until Yukon is ready and ship the rest. There are a number of ASP.NET 2 features that are really useful and there is no point in developing them yourselves if Whidbey is just round the corner. As the date keep slipping it is making it harder to sell .Net to customers. Telling them I need to write all this code now but I know MS will make it obsolete with Whidbey is not an easy sell. Also is WinFS based on the Yukon code ? If so at this rate we will not see Longhorn until the next decade. I thought the original idea behind the larger .Net vision was that instead of shrink wrapped software we would move towards a subscription model. For me that means continuous improvement rather a big bang approach. I would rather have a reduced version of a system ship early than all the interdepencies meaning I have to wait years for something to ship. I thought the idea behind a Service Orientated Architecture was to move towards a loosely coupled architecture. Now tight coupling of applications is slowing the whole process down. A question to the Microsoft Development teams: why not prioritize features and the amount of effort required to get the to work and then ask the development community how many of the features really have to be there for an initial shipping version? Otherwise, people will look increasingly towards alternatives.
Published Mar 11 2004, 02:34 PM by MartinSp
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March 11, 2004 3:37 AM
 

LeeB said:

I absolutely agree!

There's a huge volume of features coming in Whidbey which we as developers find ourselves implementing in the mean-time (master pages, personalisation and role management to name just a few). This wastes time and I'm sure the Whidbey versions will be much more flexible than the home grown versions which I will end up implementing.

I use my own implentation of master pages and as you'd expect there's no designer support. Since my master page injects a stylesheet via a link element none of the correct styling is present in the designer - I end with a mess of black and white Times New Roman. I can't imagine how much more productive I'd be with the Whidbey master pages designer - actually being able to see what my page looks like when I design it (it's not much to ask really)!

If Microsoft has Whidbey ready before Yukon they should ship it - even if this is end of 2004, it's still may be 6 months before they expect to ship Yukon. Developers need the features and the tools as soon as possible!

I've heard people saying that if Whidbey is ready in advance they could use the extra time to add more features which didn't make it. If that's the case then presumably these features would not go through the full beta testing progress as the betas would have already begun - this has to be bad news. Ship Whidbey first and then add more features!
March 11, 2004 9:33 AM
 

denny said:

Amen!

I'd rather get some new stuff every 6-9 months and have that time to get up to speed with it as I go ....

rather than getting blasted with it all at one time

like having ThanxGiving, Hallowween and X-Mas as a 3 day binge... sure it might be fun for a while but...
March 11, 2004 10:26 AM
 

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March 12, 2004 3:06 AM
 

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