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Ian Stallings & Censorship

 

It appears that the censorship loving folks finally have pissed off a co-blogger on our site. I find this annoying. Ian has been an active member of our little community for a few years now and it annoys me to think that people out there feel the need to tell him to keep his posts on topic and to watch his language. 

 

I reserve the right to post what I please on my blog.  I never signed any sort of censorship or content agreement.

 

I have been known to mix personal and professional posts all of the time, with a few profanities.  I do this because, quite simply put, I’m lazy and I don’t want to maintain a professional and a personal blog. 

 

If you have subscribed to my blog or anyone else’s then you must put up with the good, the bad, and the ugly; otherwise unsubscribe.

 

My comments to Ian and others that have dropped off or cut back because of these censorship pigs, Fuck’em!  Come back and don’t change a thing.  If they can’t handle what you have to say then they can simply unsubscribe.

 

 

Comments

Ian Stallings said:

Hey, thanks bro! I am leaning towards building a website/log where I will post less frequently but with more substance. This situation just energized me to do new things so that's one good thing. This was just a catalyst. I'm glad someone out here can relate to being a bit rough around the edges but still loving the trade. Keep it up!
# December 28, 2005 8:48 PM

Jon Galloway said:

Anyone can post comments. I'm not aware of a single censored post on weblogs.asp.net. If you don't agree with a comment you can delete or ignore it.

If you want to speak your mind in a way that's not appropriate for the main weblogs.asp.net feed, there are posting options which allow that.
# December 28, 2005 10:15 PM

Ramon Smits aka Exyll said:

Well the mainfeed should be on topic. Well only if there is such a guideline for weblogs.asp.net ofcourse. If it ain't there then you can post about anything on your blog and then it can also be automatically become visible within the mainfeed.

But then again.. I have a personal blog (msn space) and a work related/techie blog (bloggingabout.net). Why would I want to inform people that I don't know about a personal thing? Such post belong to my personal blog because that is very on topic for personal stuff :-)

We all know that sworing is something we shouldn't do. But sometimes it is a very good option to use it to make other people understand that it is emotional and that it very personal :). I don't mind Ian's use of the word f**k in that particular post.

The thing is that people can't unsubscribe from the mainfeed because then they mis very interesting stuff of other participants.

So... a guideline is .... Keep stuff on topic and if they are not then keep them on your own section but not in the mainfeed. Not that hard to do right?
# December 29, 2005 7:01 AM

foobar said:

I"m the one that asked why Ian put that post on the main feed.

Let's get something straight - I ASKED him why he felt it necessary to put that post on weblogs.asp.net. He never answered. In fact, all he did was give up, pout and stop blogging. Not that really miss him, but hey, that's one hell of an overreaction.

Believe it or not, not everybody here puts all their blog posts on the main feed. Use some brainpower (you know, that thing between your ears) and decide just what could be relevant to the general audience versus your regular blog visitors.

Ian, you need to grab a chill pill. Like I said before, maybe you should some _discretion_ as to what you put _on the main feed_, versus what you post on your blog. Is it really that hard?!?

And Rob, please learn what the the word censorship means. What, did I use my coercive superpowers to make Ian stop posting?
# December 29, 2005 7:16 PM

foobar said:

Oh, and I'll mention the hypocritical position of both of you. You decide to moderate your comments - you can explain why.

Ian decided to delete my comment. Now if that ain't some form of censorship, I don't know what is.

Learn to think before writing - it might help both of you from looking like complete fools.
# December 29, 2005 10:50 PM

Rob Chartier said:


I only moderate to limit the amount of comment spam. Any comment, for or against what I have to say I let through. If you feel that you have been ignored in my comments please let me know and I will dig it up and post it on the site.

Let me clarify my stance. Neither ASP.NET, Microsoft, or Scott W have ever said anything about limiting our posts in anyway. In fact, they keep right out of the issue. This is an open forum and we all appreciate this.



You have this strange urge to play cop and force your viewpoints upon this community. Why don’t you simply ignore me, Ian and the rest of us who feel the need to post something you may not like? It makes me wonder how many others you have pushed out of our community.

The posts I find that are noise are quickly removed from my client by a quick tap of the delete button. I’m sure your fight against blog noise might actually be attainable if you simple change your efforts to this method instead of flaming members.

Lastly, it's unfortunate that you find it foolish to actually CARE about people in our community and you might want to consider the fact that many of us are actually friends. Many of us care about each other enough to actually take time to read the personal posts. For me, I like to feel the community more than simply reading professional/technical posts; I find it enjoyable to read about my friend's lives as well.



# December 30, 2005 12:22 AM

Ian Stallings said:

Thanks for getting my back Rob.

Foobar, here I was explaining how I almost burnt my house down with my kid inside on x-mas, then go on to explain how people should be careful to avoid the same and you get up on your soap box and preach to me about proper etiquette?

Yeah man, you are a real gem. Keep up the good work foobar, without you the internet might offend some other candy ass that comes behind you.

No wonder you remain an anonymous coward..

Your mini-flame was just the catalyst I needed to move on and focus on things I love, so I guess I should thank you...

Thanks bitch!





# December 30, 2005 10:49 AM

Frans Bouma said:

There are two feeds:
- mainfeed
- your own blog's feed

Stuff which is posted on your own blog and is just there for your own blog's subscribers, don't put that on the main feed. The mainfeed is for on-topic posts.

Now, the big problem today is 'what's on-topic on the mainfeed' ? Personally, I have no idea. It 'was' .NET related stuff. But as this site is now part of asp.net, some people tend to think it's about ASP.NET.

This is an ongoing discussion and I fear there's no real conclusion possible other than 'if you're not posting about ASP.NET, go away'.
# December 30, 2005 12:09 PM
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