Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

A couple of people emailed me completely surprised after I mentioned in this post that Telligent didn't have any venture captial companies funding us.

I've worked with a lot of venture captialists over the years and still keep in contact with a few of them - and we've had several VCs contact us about funding 'interest'. VCs are a mixed blessing, you get money to spend on making your idea real but you give up a lot of control.

When I was at Microsoft working as a Technical Evangelist in the Developer Relations Group in the late 90s I spent a lot of time with start-ups. My job, back then, was to convince these start-ups that they should use the Microsoft platform; which was not an easy task when all we had to offer was ASP, COM, MTS, etc. the platform just wasn't there. It was a huge uphill battle, but that's what made if fun. A lot of these companies we talked to were funded by VCs and while a handful succeeded, the great majority were quickly run into the ground.

Why were they run into the ground? My personal opinion, and from talking with the people that worked at those companies, is that the VCs were shooting for a 'pop'. In other words, fund 15-25 ideas and hope for one home run. When you run the numbers on this it statistically makes sense. The home runs were awesome to watch, these companies would go public, people became silly rich (on paper), and then of course the bubble burst and we all know what happened. On the other hand the other companies that didn't make it would disapper, along with their ideas. The burn rates were insane though as money was pumped into these ideas, some good / some just plain dumb (I won't name names!).

A lot of this has certainly changed in recent years as VCs now look more towards long-term value vs. immediate return on investment. However, we decided early on at Telligent that we would focus on building a sustainable, slow-growth, organic business. In other words, instead of trying to hit home runs on every swing we're happy with slowly hitting consistent single base runs. So in many ways you could also say Telligent is the exact opposite kind of investment that a VC typically looks for.

Will Telligent ever take VC money? Who knows. 37Signals did, and they said they never would. It really just depends on the opportunity.

Published Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM by Rob Howard
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# re: Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:20 PM by Albert Pascual

So did you pay for everything and eveybody's salary? Or people did not get a salary until you guys made some money?

# re: Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:29 PM by Rob Howard

We hired and still only hire people when we have the ability to pay for the expenses. But when we started we got a line of credit to use to cover short-term expenses as there is always the: (a) do the work, (b) bill for the work, (c) get paid for the work cash flow problem :)

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# re: Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:43 PM by Jeff

I think you've made the right decision, if for no other reason than you can control your own destiny. I find that's very important when running your own business.

# re: Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:01 PM by The Observer

Do you have a strategic investment from Microsoft or another company?

# re: Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:11 PM by Rob Howard

The Observer asked, "Do you have a strategic investment from Microsoft or another company."

No, several people have asked that same question. We are 100% self-funded, no outside investments from any companies or individuals.

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Rob clears up some confusion on how Telligent was started. No VC funding No strategic investment from

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# re: Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:31 AM by ChrisAd

Let me tell you something...Rob, from my little knowledge, bridged two loves together:  Home (TX) & Technology (Telligent) and built a company that I work with all the time - and I push them beyond what they want often!  Rob sales the message, the product, and his employees "walk the walk" ...

In catching up on blogs, I have questions answered that I always wondered about - how the heck did he do it?  In either event, Rob - ya did it and thus far you have done a great job!  Keep the motivation, drive, and passion and you will do great!

# re: Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

Monday, September 11, 2006 10:43 PM by Shawn

Rob,

If a company has a unique business model and needs a more advanced application built in exchange for some type of revshare deal, would you guy entertain an offer, especially if this company wishes to target a vertical market which Community Server could enter?

Let me know because we're working on a great project with a few guys and companies like the CEO of Jetblue, American Express, etc.

If so, what would you guys want if you liked the concept.

Let me know,

Shawn

# re: Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:24 PM by Rob Howard

Hi Shawn,

We've done this before, it just has to be the right opportunity :)

If you'd like send me an email, rhoward@telligent.com, and we can discuss further.

Thanks,

Rob

# re: Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

Friday, September 15, 2006 11:52 AM by todd carrico

slow growth indeed...

bahhahhahha

# re: Startup doesn't always mean venture capital

Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:49 AM by Suzie Dingwall WIlliams

Great post. Bottom line, if you can sustain the company on a slow growth model, then you don't fit the VC investing model anyhow. That doesn't mean, with the current capital overhang, that VCs won't try and deploy capital to your business. It just means there's not a great rationale to take it. Please check out my blog on this very issue.