ISerializable - Roy Osherove's Blog

It is easier when you are typing right from the floor of the presentation. :)

Dude, we're not allowed to talk about Longhorn until tomorrow morning. That's when that feed will become useful.

And, you just added to the worthless posts. Just thought I'd point that out.

Just turn off the feed until tomorrow. :-)

Robert - I can't wait.
And yes, this was a worthless post. You still read it though :)
You know what, thinking about it more, no, it was not worthless, unless you think pointing people at *real* content is a waste of time.

Roy, that's a good point. :-)

For some great conference information, see Drew's revolving post on Don Box's session (http://weblogs.asp.net/dmarsh/posts/33593.aspx). Drew's in the room, blogging about the session continuously.

I think your comments, Roy, were uncalled for. Further, I think it is indicative of the need to remove the main feed for DNWL. Part of being at PDC is meeting all the people that are in the community and posting about it. Sorry if it isn't all technical, but it is still very relevant.

Actually, I thought Roy's post was spot on. The already low signal-to-noise ratio in the Microsoft corner of blogdom has plummeted today. Now, I'm a firm defender of people being able to say whatever the heck they want in their own blogs. But today, the world of .NET weblogs is eerily reminiscent of AOL, LiveJournal, Blogger, and other haunts of teenage girls who think the entire world revolves around their dinner dates.

But then, maybe I'm just jealous because I'm not in LA soaking in the 802.11b thought-control field.

Kirk: How is one to do with the other? The main feed for DNWL is mostly for .Net content. PDC get togethers and meeting info is exactly what PDCBLoggers is made for. How is my ranting about the fact that the main feed has become *too* polluted got anything to do with removing the feed? How is reading "I'm here! meet me at booth 28" got anything to do with .Net? It belongs somewhere else.

PS: Good link to *real* content. I'll add it.

It's hard to get informative details down and pay attention to the sessions while things are still running. Give it a night and see what people can come up with with a minute to breathe...anyway, I like hearing about other experiences - since as far as I can tell, it's too big to see everything yourself!

Some of our blogs are the only way to reach others here in a sea of 7,000 people so Mike and Roy, there's a particular finger on my hand...yes you know which one it is

Anon: I'll disregard the finger, because I understand where you're coming from. However, have you though about maybe doing a small *separate* blog for just the PDC and linking to it from your own blog sagin :"PDC details about me and where I'm at will be here.."?
How is that a bad idea?
And next time have the guts to post with your name, and perhaps that will make you stand behind your words.

Oh, and ther'es also the PDC forums, and community application, IM, c'mon! You're telling me that your blog is the only way to find someone? give me a break.

Roy, This in part reponds to this post but also to your comment to my separate post. (Thanks!) Yeah, then I got the wrong impression. I agree with everything you are saying as well as far as having clear channels to get the meat if you want it, and that IM could be employed in certain instances. Hey, I've been reading you long enough to know that you're a strictly a no B.S. kind of guy who has a low tolerance for people wasting your time. I hope you can enjoy the show from Israel, Roy, and we'll keep looking for those .PPT links!

The people that are blogging about "want to meet up" and "here's who I met" are talking about mostly other bloggers on DNWL or bloggers that everyone knows on DNWL. Sure, blogs are about technical stuff, and somewhat of a personal journal of the event as a whole. Let's face it: DNWL is *not* completely about .NET and technical approaches. Defining it would dillute the purpose of DNWL.

PDCBloggers is an *aggregated* feed, just as the main DNWL page is an *aggregated* feed. I argue... if you don't like the feed, use SharpReader based on the OPML. Pushing people off DNWL is absurd, and discourages others from joining in the community effort.

Candidly, many people here do not use MSN Messenger, and without that as a vehicle, there is very little opportunity here at PDC to find others. I am not holding up a finger, but I respectively disagree about policing the main feed. It simply discourages participation. Even with the community app, there just isn't a vehicle for connecting within 7000 people.

I aggree that the number of posts regarding fires and LAX closings are numerous, but that is what is going on here. Hotels are overcrowded, the LAN is unstable... these are the pains that the early arrivers are dealing with and hope to prepare others for as they arrive tonight and tomorrow.

If we remove the main feed for DNWL, we are forced to rethink what DNWL and blogging in general is about. There are entirely too many posts policing the main feed instead of commenting on indivdual feeds. Give some feedback to people posting "here's the DataGid and sorting" again and again. Provide some relevant feedback to "I just discovered attributes, and here is how I use them inappropriately." DNWL are tehnical, revolving around a technical event (PDC).

> You're telling me that your blog is the only way to find someone? give me a break.

No I'm saying we don't owe you a frigging thing. Whine all you want. The conference starts tommorrow not today, fool. Many people did not pay to go to the pre-conference sessions and did other things. I know you want to do your usual whining to get everything free but we don't owe you anything and we can blog on whatever the *** we feel like it just like you do with all your inane posts. Is that clear enough for you?

Anon: For some reason you still continue to hide behind anonymity, leaving me in a dilemma whether I should even answer you, since only a coward yells "f** you" behind anonymous. Still, I'll answer but this is the last post I'll accept that is anonymous AND disrespectful. Yes, I can *whine* all I want. On the other hand, you can blog away as you please about anything and everything, and there's not a single thing I can do about it. This is our playing field and I have no problem with that. If it bothers you that much, just like you tell me to do, "There's not a friggin thing you can do about it" since I'm writing what I believe to be true, and try to have some respect for other people while doing it. Calling someone a fool in response to a valid argument is a retort I would expect from someone not up to par with what I've come to known and love in this community. Do your math.

Also, see my comment to Dave Burk on this issue here:

http://weblogs.asp.net/dburke/posts/33687.aspx#FeedBack