Microsoft fails miserably to explain or promote Test Driven Development in Team System

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Published Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:10 AM by RoyOsherove
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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:42 AM by Sam Gentile

# re: Microsoft fails miserably to explain or promote Test Driven Development in Team System

Hi Roy,

Where have you been on this one dude? -)) I've been posting on it for the better part of a week (none of which you cited) -))

http://samgentile.com/blog/archive/2005/11/18/32103.aspx
http://samgentile.com/blog/archive/2005/11/22/32116.aspx

I also have a number of new Agile posts if you are interested-)
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:36 PM by Roy Osherove

# re: Microsoft fails miserably to explain or promote Test Driven Development in Team System

Hey Sam. I was away for a week on Militray Reserve...
Looks like I missed quite a bit; )
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:42 PM by Sam Gentile

# re: Microsoft fails miserably to explain or promote Test Driven Development in Team System

Ah, I knew there was something or you wouldhave been all over this my friend!

Jump in, we have some educating to do! -)
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 3:46 PM by AndrewSeven

# re: Microsoft fails miserably to explain or promote Test Driven Development in Team System

I remember what marketing did for .Net.
The ".Net Servers" were a banner and included Commerce Server and other "Server" products that had little or no .Net except in the name. This lead to many "vaporware" comments even though .Net Framework and Asp.Net were vewry much real.

These features and that article are not about Test Driven Development or Test Driven Design but they are about Test.

Maybe this should be called "Test Supported" or "Test Assured".

I haven't yet done anything but smoke test with them, but these tools should be a great way to convert an no-tests project into a project where we can start using TDD.

I see a link between this kind of thing and other things like getting rid of (for everybody no matter what) the project file in web projects.
Which clients is MS listening to?

Thursday, November 24, 2005 4:22 PM by Antony Marcano

# re: Microsoft fails miserably to explain or promote Test Driven Development in Team System

I guess someone out there was listening!

The page in question now reads:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms182521.aspx

<blockquote>

Visual Studio Team System
Guidelines for Test-Driven Development

This topic is obsolete and has been removed from the MSDN documentation.

</blockquote>