Weblogs.asp.net Community Server 2.0 upgrade sorely missed!

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Published Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:23 AM by RoyOsherove
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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:33 PM by Fabrice

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I think we'd better move to somewhere else. But a big problem is that to be able to export our data (posts) from weblogs.asp.net, we have to wait for Community Server...
Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:20 PM by Paschal

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Hi Roy

I asked here this question a month ago and I suggested a bit of transparency regarding who's really in charge and to see any roadmap. Well I received some strong comments, so I think sadly we have just to wait and see. Someone highly responsible usually even told me if I wasn't happy I could move somewhere else.
I suggested also to try SubText, which is a good alternative to CS 2.0 (lighter code, blog oriented and tool to migrate automatically all the posts).
Anyway just my two cents but I feel we are trapped somewhere in the hands of some unnamed God in Microsoft.
Paschal
Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:33 PM by Peter

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Thanks for bringing this out again, as a daily (or hourly?) reader of this site, what I observe and can tell is that "this" is not a democratic community. Telligent control everything, they give you air, food and water, and you guys just live without these elements. Microsoft give tons of $ to Telligent, but well, Telligent just want to keep this site as a reference (their commerical resume use), and then put the upgrade process right after all of their commerical clients.

I know, Telligent must upgrade this site in one day, but so what? this is their "job" and this is not answer the question exactly. I'd second to SubText, or any other blogging engine. I'm pretty sure all of the blogging engine/ISV would 'dedicate' a team to maintain this site 24x7, that's the same or even better quality of services than Telligent.
Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:43 PM by Darrell

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Thanks for the compliments Roy!
Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:16 PM by Karl

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I've wanted to get a blog going on weblogs.asp.net and after trying hard to get in touch with someone at Telligent, I was told to wait a couple weeks for the CS 2.0 upgrade. That was more than a couple weeks ago. To be honest, as an MVP, I find it sad that I'm not being supported in this effort.
Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:40 PM by Alex Lowe

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We said that we'd perform an upgrade when we shipped CS 2.0. At the time, back in October we thought we'd ship CS 2.0 in early January but we slipped back to late February. The delay in the CS 2.0 RTM caused a delay in the upgrade. I posted to the forum created for the bloggers on forums.asp.net giving a timeline that we are working towards for the upgrade.
Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:40 AM by Rich Ersek

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As Alex says, the CS 2.0 upgrade for weblogs.asp.net is coming in the next few weeks. We'll begin testing on our staging server next week. As soon as we stabilize followiing the upgrade, we'll begin opening up new blog registrations to interested ASP.NET bloggers!
Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:58 AM by Sahil Malik

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Roy, Fabrice, y'know the easiest way to get a CS2.0 upgrade is to move to codebetter LOL :)
Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:17 AM by Roy Osherove

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Alex, Rich,
Thanks for the update.
The forum post was lost on me, and in any case, I wanted to make this infromation public. I'm glad we're getting an upgrade!
Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:32 AM by Frans Bouma

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"As soon as we stabilize followiing the upgrade, we'll begin opening up new blog registrations to interested ASP.NET bloggers!"
Does that mean that weblogs.asp.net is a place meant for asp.net bloggers? Because I'm not an ASP.NET blogger, I'm starting to feel a little alienated.
Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:10 AM by Fabrice

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"ASP.NET bloggers"
Definitely the time to move. Most of us are .NET bloggers, not ASP.NET bloggers.
Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:03 AM by Bil Simser

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As someone mentioned, it would be a time to move given that we still (even after the update from Alex) have no idea when the upgrade will actually happen (I did a search on the forums for "weblogs upgrade" and "timeline" but can't find the timeline thread he mentions).

Of course the biggest problem we have with moving is that we have no access to our current blog data, and I really don't want to abandon 2 years of posts right now.

I feel like we're between a rock and a hardPlace.
Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:03 AM by Jeff Julian

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We are currently investigating what it will take to move Geekswithblogs.net to 2.0 since we have quite a bit of custom code that our members are used to using. But I wanted to clear up that we are not CS yet, we are still .Text.
Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:05 AM by Peter

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Well, upgrade the software does not answer the question.

The point is why do Weblogs.asp.net is foreced to use CS, but not SubText? I'm a big follower of SubText project, and I'm sure all of the other blogging engines (built by .NET) want to host this site and join this competition too!

(BTW, I do agree that this site is ONLY available for ASP.NET bloggers - the site name (weblogs.asp.net explains everything), all posts are "ON TOPIC" and informative, while generic .NET bloggers should go to other site, like codebetter, dotnetjunkies or somewhere else.
Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:49 AM by Frans Bouma

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I'm with you Bill Simser. I too don't want to abandone my old posts and especially the massive amount of links (sorry if that sounds arrogant) to these posts (at least some of them). Moving that content is 1, but making sure people who're looking through google for those posts will end up on my new place is likely to be a bigger problem.

Peter: my blog was already on this server when it was still dotnetweblogs. I never favored the move to weblogs.asp.net, nor do I favor the way it is going now that we 'just have to move'. I just can't move that easily: my old posts are still read a lot and I don't want people to find a 404 and think the post is gone while it's somewhere else.

I also don't like your tone, you have to realize a lot of the bloggers here were already here before the whole site became weblogs.asp.net. They have written a lot of content which is linked to by a massive amount of sites. Simply telling them 'to move' is IMHO very harsh and is likely not going to be met with lots of cheers and joys.
Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:35 AM by Jon Galloway

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I got deep into a screen-scraping solution to exporting my content to BlogML since the weblogs.asp.net rss feeds limit to 25 posts and the webservices that would help have been disabled. I decided to wait until the CS upgrade in hopes that the new installation has better webservice support. If the upgraded version still requires screen-scraping to export, I'll post my code - hopefully we can all use the same system and avoid duplicating effort.

Once you've got BlogML, you can move anywhere you want - or just have a backup "just in case". In my case I'm planning to move to my own SubText system so I can re-enable comments on my old posts as appropriate and have better control over what I can post.
Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:06 AM by AndrewSeven

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I thought that it was for .Net in general and that the domain name was because it was implemented with/using asp.net.

Are all the blogs on blogger.com suppoed to be about blogging?

I'm not a prolific blogger and I don't mind the plain look so I'm not to concerned about the improvements. Whoever is paying for it has the say on these things. Putting paying clients first makes sense, but if a non-paying client is maintained for marketing and visibilty reasons, then it isn't really a non-paying client.

That said, it does seem to me that this is becoming annother community thing started by MS that was doing very well up to a certain point, then stuff happens and the community starts to come appart.
Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:11 PM by Dave Burke

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I was frustrated with the weblogs.asp.net situation back in 2004, not with the free service, but with the fact that I couldn't get my DATA. Do I put together an XMLRPC app and migrated all of my weblogs.asp.net data to my current blog. I've posted on my experience back in 2005.

http://dbvt.com/search/SearchResults.aspx?q=xmlrpc+client

I lost all of my comment links, but they, along with the entire archive of my posts between June 2003 and Sept 2004 are still available at weblogs.asp.net/dburke. Google search is supported, comments are preserved (at weblogs.asp.net), and I've got full control of my data.

i don't recommend this anymore, since I know some of you guys receive a ton of comments. You've also got a very long history by this point that would rule out any limited data retrieval outs like the one I took in 2004. I'm just saying there is (was) an option.

But still, I would suspect that with the release of CS 2.0 you'll be able to not only retrieve your posts, but your comments as well if you decide to go elsewhere.


Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:35 PM by Peter

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Ok, assume you guys can maintain posting in this http://*.asp.net site with anything related to .NET, and how about the "engine"? Is SubText and DasBlog a better choice? I can introduce a professional (commerical) team in maintaining this site. Democratic?