Scrum is not enough. Try ScrumP

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Published Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:46 AM by RoyOsherove
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Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:47 AM by Gavin Greig

# re: Scrum is not enough. Try ScrumP

You might have a job selling ScrumP to managers too, as "scrumpy" is an alternative term for the alcoholic drink cider in parts of the UK.

Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:35 AM by Diego Carrion

# re: Scrum is not enough. Try ScrumP

Its cool to read about Scrum and XP.

Btw, it would be nice to see the images in your feeds :)

Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:41 PM by Joe Ocampo

# re: Scrum is not enough. Try ScrumP

I recently did a post on this.

www.lostechies.com/.../scrum-the-gateway-drug-to-true-agility.aspx

In it I mention that Kane Mar worked with Ken Schwaber to come up with Scrum@XP

www.controlchaos.com/.../xp.php

Friday, September 28, 2007 6:17 AM by Jarkko Viinamäki

# re: Scrum is not enough. Try ScrumP

I agree. Scrum alone is not enough so IMHO you need at least Scrum + some selected XP techniques (at least CI + Test-first thinking) - if you are developing software iteratively and incrementally.

But in customer projects you also need high level phasing and actual project management to deal with contract/customer issues. Things get more complicated in fixed price/scope/schedule projects and theoretical models cannot be directly applied.

I like to see the layers as PM method -> light-weight (R)UP -> Scrum -> applied XP -> people. So you need elements from all of these.

(R)UP can be very agile if you just strip it down to its absolute core. And IMHO that's the way the creators intended it to be.

See one of my slidesets about this subject here: www.rwsug.fi/default.asp