Samer Ibrahim's Blog

I made the switch a year back, initially it was great but then more due to lack of standards i believe, browsing some sites(CodeProject) which implemented advanced DHTML involved changing some userstrings etc.

Then i came across AvantBrowser http://www.avantbrowser.com

it's a free browser built on top of IE and is what IE should have been, supports all the goodies of Firebird (tabbed browsing etc.) and adds more. I enjoyed it so much that i actually made a donation :)

Give it a shot, you will have the best of both worlds.

Every browser using the IE renderer (myie2, avantbrowser, crazybrowser etc.) suffers from the same problems: if IE has a bug, they have a bug, if IE isn't standard compliant, they ain't either.

I use Firebird now, after using these 3 other browsers for some time. I love it. Tabbed browser extensions and for example the extension to hide flash objects on a page and only play them if you click them are priceless. No more flash-adds on pages, easy tabbed browsing (better than any IE using browser has)... and above all: standard compliance and safe browsing. For the one or two sites which do not look great in Firebird I fire up IE, but most of the time now I simply don't bother anymore: if hte site sux in firebird, the site isn't worth visiting.

The non-standard css implementation is frustrating me with IE.

Even if i move to firebird, the problem won't go away, because most of your visitors still use a browser with those 'bugs' in. (And i'm referring to the damn box model now)

In the end you should start using seperate style sheets just for IE to compensate with the box model bugs (the old IE 5.5 workarounds don't always work now)

I made the switch to Firebird aboiut 9 months ago. I have had moments where I have had to launch the old IExplore.exe, usually on an e-commerce site which refuses to work on anything except IE.

I'm looking forward to the 1.0 release.

I'm also looking forward to Microsofts new release. If there is one thing we all know, it is that competition is a good thing.

Does anyone know if the IE release with XP SP2 has any non-security bugfixes?

hi, accidentally came accross this page while google :).

i made the switch to firebird back when it was 0.7, and even now i'm still supporting it. its had a name change (firefox now), and its up to v0.9.2, just a few revisions off v1.0!!!.

back in 07 it did suffer from an over-strict quirks mode, which prevented a lot of sites from rendering properly as people STILL use ie as a developing test-bed, not good! but now in 0.9 its proving incredibly accurate. not only does it still support all the w3c complient standards, and render them all perfectly, but its quirks mode now emulates ie rendering pretty well too. about the only site i've come accross that still doesn't look right is the microsoft windowsupdate site, but thats due to microsofts corrupt tactics again, ("use ie or you can't update our monopolised o/s". in the end theres nothing mozilla can do about this, as microsoft still desperately try to monopolise there browser by forcing us to use it to get what we really need).

as a downside, the support for javascript in both mozilla and mozilla firefox is still small. yes this is great for security reasons, as javascript is a true scripting language rather than rendering format, but it would still be nice to see those coloured scrollbars etc... especially as gecko renders them directly anyway.

i'd also like to point out i've not recieved a single trojen since i moved from ie, which was way over a year ago now. back in ie i used download managers to make sure nothing was trying to download, but due to microsofts love of silent installs it didn't always work. now nothing that attempts to explout the web browser can get through , which is a huge security advantage.

i urge all who read this to download firefox and at least give it a go. nobody can tell you whether to switch or not, but you have to try it for yourself before deciding, don't just think ie does its job so you have no reason to switch. also don't assume firefox will be anything like mozilla. yes its still a mozilla project, but the full mozilla is bloated, and no longer just a browser, which i must admit did put me off when i saw how similar the firefox screenshots looked.

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