Bosworth used to be at Microsoft.
I never stated that Adam Bosworth did not work at Microsoft. The article that I link to states that. What's the deal with you and your attempt to correct me. So far, you are 0-2.
Assuming Bosworth did invent Ajax, that still doesn't mean Google invented it - so the title of that article is misleading as is the title of your blog entry :-)
From what I have read, it is widely agreed that MS created the key technology of AJAX through the MSXML component that was callable through the client side script in IE. It may be that the people that originally built the MSXML component now work at Google, but that does not mean that Google created AJAX, which is what the quote states. The quote is an attempt to take credit for something that is a hot commodity.
As for Google's status in the building of AJAX, they clearly popularized it through Google Suggest and Google Maps. Did they invent it? I don't think so. I've been calling xml feeds asynchronously since late 2000 with msxml, so does that mean that I invented the technique? I don't think so any more than 25 years earlier I came upwith the idea of a windowing gui interface. ;-)
I don't think Bosworth was claiming anything about AJAX. He says "stuff that these days is called AJAX." All he is saying was that while at Microsoft he was pushing to move apps from the desktop to the web but it wasn't time yet. Everyone was talking about the same thin client concept back in the mid 90s but nobody could come up with a good way of getting it done. You had Sun trying to produce a JavaOS at the same time. It was all a push to move applications back to central servers as they were in the mainframe days.
The quote doesn't say that Google invented AJAX. It says that Adam and some other people did, and that many of them now work at Google.
I agree it's worded pretty badly, though. I don't know if that's intentional or not.
I just found a blog post and the poster said that Adam was involved in writing the MSXML object at MS, which I didn't question. As a result, I'll go with the "Adam was was involved with inventing AJAX" as a fact. And he now works at Google.
AIUI the first real Ajax application was the Outlook web client for Exchange Server. I was certainly writing Ajaxy applications using MSXML on IE5 back in 2000 (and cursing the changes in the various XML components when IE5.5 came out). I would agree with wallym, though: Google really popularised it with Suggest and Maps.
"I never stated that Adam Bosworth did not work at Microsoft. The article that I link to states that. What's the deal with you and your attempt to correct me. So far, you are 0-2."
It's my job on the internet to correct people who are wrong. You should be less stubborn about being corrected.
I would like to thank Mr. Bosworth for inventing AJAX, Al Gore for the internet and Sir Wally for the GUI that I enjoy.
I would also like to thank Santa Claus for me car, the Easter Bunny for my house and the stork for my kids.
It great to know that the people who deserve the credit are receiving it.
I've always been stubborn. Its part of my charm. Your suggestion is appreciated and noted. :-)
I didn't mean to imply that Adam was not involved. In fact, I didn't mean to imply anything about Adam. I was voicing frustration regarding some unknown marketing person that was stating that Google invented AJAX, which I think is a VERY misleading statement. It kinda snowballed from there.
Microsoft invented Ajax first when they develop they Outlook web accsess.
i agree with you ( Wallym)
Wow. Just wow...
I'm sorry Wally, you this entire discussion has made you lose quite a bit of face.
Focusing on conjecture as to who invented what holds little relevance and serves even less purpose. I suppose just because you contributed to a crummy WROX book you think your entitled to pass judgment on some poor blogger who simply doesn't know any better?
If you're going to swim with the sharks, I suggest you try to act like an adult. Focus on the work -- not the finger pointing.