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To Richard Grimes

Lots has been said in the past days about Richard Grimes statement to drop .NET completely. First I thought: "Who's Richard Grimes?". That's saying more about me than mr. Grimes, as I often forget people's names as I find it more important to know what the theory is behind what they've accomplished than what their name is.

What I'd like to give Richard is a metaphore to think about. Here it goes:

Working with .NET is sometimes like listening to an Opeth album: just when you're getting fed up with the grunts and the growls, you run into a piece of music that is so beautiful, it will probably make you cry.

Published Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:16 PM by FransBouma

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# re: To Richard Grimes@ Sunday, February 20, 2005 2:20 PM

Well said Frans.

I think his reason is deeper than meets the eye. I've sat in his talks, and he seems extremely intelligent and academic to me. Unfortunately academics don't make a multi billion dollar company, and at times you need to do things that might seem academically incorrect and financially sound.

And too bad he choose to see the 1% bad and the 99% good wasn't good enough to hold him back.

So now that he's dumped .NET, what is he gonna do next?

- SM

Sahil Malik

# re: To Richard Grimes@ Sunday, February 20, 2005 3:54 PM

I like this idea of academically incorrect but financially sound. In a comment I wrote on your blog a while ago on WinFS, I said basically said I think the decision to postpone WinFS was academically (perfectionism) motivated, but was a terrible decision. I commented further on that in my blog: http://www.base4.net/viewcomments.aspx?Channel.ID=5e284692-c0ae-4235-99d8-3aba5e456a77
I'd be interested in your opinion Frans if you get a chance...

Alex James

# re: To Richard Grimes@ Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:04 PM

Even intelligent authors can get on some pretty dumb tirades. It's one thing to disagree with the finer points of Microsoft's .NET strategy, it's another thing to throw out the baby with the bathwater, as it were, and leave the platform behind entirely. .NET is here, it is succeeding, and those who can't evolve from either the C++ or the VB world need to get off the train. My replies to Mr. Grimes' rant:

http://www.tallent.us/blog/CommentView.aspx?guid=8624a4e9-7fd7-4b83-939d-be1e7b16f799

Richard Tallent

# re: To Richard Grimes@ Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:47 AM

Wow, the article exemplifies the fact that Mr. Grimes is basically a burned out software engineer (everyone will reach the point where they tire of the "new").

The conclusion of his article sums up his burnout:
"[.NET is] intended for users to develop applications, but not for Microsoft to create operating systems or the revenue generating products that they base their profits on."

Well ... DUH! I wouldn't expect MS to utilize an uber abstraction such as .NET while they're implementing the next version of the operating system; I'd hope 'lightweight' is a requirement.

Matt

# re: To Richard Grimes@ Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:32 AM

I hesitate to cast stones at Mr Grimes. He's a guy who knows a lot about computer science and has been around for a while. He doesn't seem to be a burnt out software engineer, he seems to be someone bitter that the .Net runtime didn't live up to his lofty expectations.

http://www.devcow.com/weblogs/Trackback,guid,02c45f59-8df3-459d-9406-c4a4b2afeed9.aspx

Matt Ranlett

# re: To Richard Grimes@ Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:49 AM

If you don't like what you do, do something else. Don't bitch about it though, life's too short. Note to self, do not purchase any Richard Grimes books.

Greg Robinson