.NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Last week we shipped Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5.  This release is a big one for .NET, and delivers a ton of new capabilities and improvements for web, client, office and mobile development.

Over the next few months we'll be delivering a series of additional products that build on top of this VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 foundation, and make .NET development even better.  Below is a road-map of some of the upcoming initiatives and releases for .NET web development that my team is currently working on for the months ahead:

Releasing the Source Code for the .NET Framework Libraries

We announced last month that we'll provide the ability for developers to download and browse the source code of the .NET Framework libraries, as well as enable integrated source debugging of them using Visual Studio 2008.  You can learn more about this in my blog post here.

We are finishing up the final deployment of the source servers that host this now, and will be publishing instructions on how to enable the integrated debugging experience within Visual Studio 2008 shortly.  I'll blog detailed steps on how to turn this feature on once it is available.

ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions Release

VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 include a ton of new features for ASP.NET development.  We are planning to deliver even more ASP.NET functionality next year with a "ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions" release.  The first public preview of this will be available for download next week on the web.

Next week's ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions preview release will include:

  • ASP.NET MVC: This model view controller (MVC) framework for ASP.NET provides a structured model that enables a clear separation of concerns within web applications, and makes it easier to unit test your code and support a TDD workflow.  It also helps provide more control over the URLs you publish in your applications, and more control over the HTML that is emitted from them.  You can learn more about it from Part 1 of my ASP.NET MVC Tutorial series.  I'm hoping to find time this weekend to write and post Part 2 of the series.
  • ASP.NET AJAX Improvements: New ASP.NET AJAX features in the ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions release will include better browser history support (back/forward button integration, and server-side history management support via a new <asp:history> server control), improved AJAX content linking support with permalinks, and additional JavaScript library improvements.
  • ASP.NET Dynamic Data Support: The ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions release will deliver new features that enable faster creation of data driven web sites.  It provides a rich scaffolding framework, and enables rapid data driven site development using both ASP.NET WebForms and ASP.NET MVC.
  • ASP.NET Silverlight Support: With the ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions release we'll deliver support for easily integrating Silverlight within your ASP.NET applications.  Included will be new controls that make it easy to integrate Silverlight video/media and interactive content within your sites.
  • ADO.NET Data Services: In parallel with the ASP.NET Extensions release we will also be releasing the ADO.NET Entity Framework.  This provides a new modeling framework that enables developers to define a conceptual model of a database schema that closely aligns to a real world view of the information.  We will also be shipping a new set of data services (codename "Astoria") that make it easy to expose REST based API endpoints from within your ASP.NET applications.

Silverlight 2.0 Release

Two months ago we shipped Silverlight 1.0 for Mac and Windows, and announced our plans to deliver Silverlight on Linux.  Silverlight 1.0 is focused on enabling rich media scenarios in a browser, and supports a JavaScript/AJAX programming model.

Next year we will be releasing a major update of Silverlight that focuses on enabling rich Internet applications.  This release will include a cross-platform, cross-browser version of the .NET Framework, and will enable a rich .NET development platform in the browser.  Earlier this year we shipped an early Alpha containing some of the basic functionality of the release.  Our next public preview will add considerably to this feature set.  Some of the new .NET specific features in the next public Silverlight preview will include:

  • WPF UI Framework: The current Silverlight Alpha release only includes basic controls support and a managed API for UI drawing.  The next public Silverlight preview will add support for the higher level features of the WPF UI framework.  These include: the extensible control framework model, layout manager support, two-way data-binding support, and control template and skinning support.  The WPF UI Framework features in Silverlight will be a compatible subset of the WPF UI Framework features in last week's .NET Framework 3.5 release.

  • Rich Controls: Silverlight will deliver a rich set of controls that make building Rich Internet Applications much easier.  The next Silverlight preview release will add support for core form controls (textbox, checkbox, radiobutton, etc), built-in layout management controls (StackPanel, Grid, etc), common functionality controls (TabControl, Slider, ScrollViewer, ProgressBar, etc) and data manipulation controls (DataGrid, etc).

  • Rich Networking Support: Silverlight will deliver rich networking support.  The next Silverlight preview release will add support for REST, POX, RSS, and WS* communication.  It will also add support for cross domain network access (so that Silverlight clients can access resources and data from any trusted source on the web).

  • Rich Base Class Library Support: Silverlight will include a rich .NET base class library of functionality (collections, IO, generics, threading, globalization, XML, local storage, etc).  The next Silverlight preview release will also add built-in support for LINQ to XML and richer HTML DOM API integration.

Previously we've been referring to this .NET-enabled Silverlight release as "Silverlight V1.1".  After stepping back and looking at all the new features in it (the above list is only a subset - there are many more we aren't sharing yet), we've realized that calling it a point release doesn't really reflect the true nature of it.  Consequently we have decided to change the name and refer to it as "Silverlight V2.0" going forward.

We will be releasing a Beta of Silverlight 2.0 in Q1 of 2008.  This Beta will support a Go-Live license that enables developers to begin building and deploying Silverlight 2.0 applications.

We will also be releasing a free Visual Studio 2008 tools update that provides great Silverlight 2.0 tools support within Visual Studio 2008, and enables developers to easily build Silverlight applications using any .NET language.  We will be supporting Silverlight development with both the Visual Studio 2008 Standard/Professional products, as well as with the free Visual Studio 2008 Express editions.

I'm going to be starting a new blog tutorial series in a few weeks that discusses how to build Silverlight 2.0 applications, and show off the new features in more depth.  Stay tuned for more details soon.

IIS 7.0

Early next year we'll ship the final release of IIS 7.0 as part of the Windows Server 2008 release.  As I've blogged about in the past, IIS 7.0 is a major update of our web-server stack, and introduces a significantly new and improved extensibility, configuration and administration architecture. 

One of the really cool things about IIS 7.0 is that it is all nicely integrated with the .NET Framework, and enables you to use any .NET language to extend and customize the server.  You can now easily do things in VB and C# that previously required writing a pretty gnarly C++ ISAPI.  The deployment, management and administration of web applications on the server is also now nicely unified across IIS and ASP.NET.

We will also shortly begin sharing details of a new web application deployment framework for IIS that enables you to easily automate the deployment of web applications on either a single server or across a web farm of machines.  It will make it easy to version your web applications (including allowing you to quickly roll back to previous versions), as well as automatically provision them across multiple servers.  It also enables the full automation of deployment tasks (including via both command-line and PowerShell scripting APIs).  The combination of IIS7 with this web deployment framework will enable you to deploy and scale your ASP.NET server applications better than ever before.

Summary

Last week's VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 release was a huge step forward for .NET development.  The release not only delivered a ton of great new language, runtime and tool features, but even more importantly provided a really solid foundation that we'll be building upon in the months and years ahead.  Stay tuned to my blog for more details about each of the above releases.

Hope this helps,

Scott

Published Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:22 AM by ScottGu

Comments

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:27 PM by Indy

Hi Scott!

Kudos to you and your great team - you guys are just great!! Looking forward to seeing the next article on MVC.

Indy

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:28 PM by Josh Stodola

Keep up the great work guys! What you are doing is border-line magical.  

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:44 PM by Arpit Jacob

awesome can't wait for your next posts :)

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:49 PM by Jesus Garza

You mentioned that ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions “first public preview of this will be available for download next week on the web”. And that “will be releasing a Beta of Silverlight 2.0 in Q1 of 2008”.

Is Silverlight 2.0 included on the extensions? If not, is there going to be an alfa before the 2008 beta?

Best regards,

Jesús Garza

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:55 PM by kevindente

Scott,

I'm already running into limitations with VS2008's Javascript support (debugging limitations, Intellisense issues with major Javascript frameworks). Any plans for a service pack or hotfixes to address these issues?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:57 PM by David.Kelley

I think its a good plan to call it(Silverlight) 2.0 anyway as there are just so many differences and your using a real programming language (i.e. C#).  Yesterday they were still calling 1.1 on campus too.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:57 PM by Ben Hayat

It's very appropriate to call it SL 2.0, leaves room for 1.0 to grow a bit more.

Excellent news Scott; SL team is the best (after ASP team) ;-)

Thank you Scott for giving us the Road Map. Have you thought about running for Presidency? We can use someone like you!

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:01 PM by Fisher Ning

Wow, Silverlight 2.0, Let's forget 1.1. 2.0 looks awesome. I will develop new SL content for my site by 2.0 after the first preview beta is released.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:05 PM by Ian Hughes

In the Silverlight 2.0 Release when we create custom Silverlight Controls will we be able to fetch embedded resources like images back out of the assembly? I noticed right now you have the option to wrap them in but not get them back out.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:06 PM by Scott

I like alot of the new features.  One thing particular nested Master Page - Design Time.

I would have really liked seeing Design Time Nested Repeater Rendering.  Just to allow us to get an idea about what our nested repeaters look like without having to go to a runtime view.

Any chance something like this can be included in a service pack? :)

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:07 PM by Joe

Great news on the Silverlight features.  But you mention that it will be a subset of WPF 3.5 and then say it includes a DataGrid?

Does that mean there will be a WPF 3.6 update or some new downloadable components?

Any word on taking Silverlight out of the Browser - an AIR competitor?

Here's hoping that the beta will be before MIX 08.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:08 PM by Ben Hayat

To Jesus:

>>Is Silverlight 2.0 included on the extensions? If not, is there going to be an alfa before the 2008 beta?<<

I think the SL Extension in ASP 3.5 is to support integration with SL 1.0. Since SL 2.0 is due later on, but that's my guess!

..Ben

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:12 PM by Jon Galloway

Very glad to hear about the Go Live license for Silverlight 2.0 in Q1.

Thanks so much for publishing a roadmap that's available to everyone to see - it's very much appreciated.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:18 PM by Kiran

Is Microsoft going to support Script#? I have been using this for a while and really love it.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:29 PM by Chad Campbell

Scott,

Thank you for the update.  You mention in this post how you will be "starting a new blog tutorial series in a few weeks that discusses how to build Silverlight 2.0 applications"  My question is, how will this be useful to those of us that cannot get our hands on a Silverlight build that has these features?  From my understanding it sounds like the next public release will not occur until the MIX '08 conference.  Is there going to be another alpha between now and then?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:39 PM by Wallstreet

Give me silverlight 2.0 or give me death!

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:40 PM by Mcbeev

Has there been any word on an update for Web Deployment Projects for VS 2008 ?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:49 PM by Mohamed

Hi Scott,

You and your team are doing phenomenal work and should win an award for this.

I CANNOT wait till next week.

Again, Thank you for making our lives more enjoyable.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:51 PM by Doctor Memory

>>(the above list is only a subset - there are many more we aren't sharing yet),

Curse you Guthrie and your tantalizing hints as to how great this next release will be! Can’t you see you already have the lot of us drooling in anticipation!

Hehehe, seriously though. I have looked around for any info on Silverlight mobile but I can’t find anything other than the demonstration back in May. How is this coming along and do the Silverlight Mobile devs have a web-log going?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:05 PM by Steven Berkovitz

Any idea when we can expect an updated  version of the Web Deployment Project?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:11 PM by Todd Gray

Do you have a roadmap for Silverlight that covers the various platforms and when they will get the new version(s), or will 2.0 be released simultaneously on all supported platforms?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:13 PM by bill Xie

Hi, Scott,

Good job! I am also wondering the progress of dynamic language support like IronPython.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:24 PM by Gary

I always thought labeling it v1.1 was an understatement. :)

I do have a question about IIS 7.0. Windows Vista has already shipped with this. What are the differences between this release and the one in Windows Server 2008?

Also, do you guys get any information from Novell on the development status of Moonlight? Mono's page on the subject doesn't appear to get updated often. Will the release dates be far apart? Will this release contain all of the functionality  of the Windows and Mac versions?

Thanks.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:25 PM by Bertrand Le Roy

Small correction: history is not managed through a history control but through the ScriptManager and new properties and events defined on it.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:31 PM by Colin Bowern

Is it fair to say that Microsoft is not playing the mobile web game?  There seems to be little investment in the area of the mobile web.  With the number of devices exceeding PCs it seems like a big miss.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:54 PM by Radu

Scott, I really admire your work but I have to complain about Microsofts strategy with Silverlight 1.1. I am very disapointed that I have to continue waiting for a Beta until Q1 of 2008.

I started building a Silverlight 1.1 Application in August this year expecting the Beta to come soon. In fact I read in your blog that the Beta will be released in 2007. If I had known that it will take until 2008 I would have planed my work differently.

Radu

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:03 PM by Oran

Hi Scott, the web product roadmap looks very cool!  But last I heard, focusing exclusively on the web product roadmap was your old job.  You have said "Although my blog is heavy on ASP.NET content, that is actually only one of the technologies I spend time on."  Despite this acknowledgement, I am becoming increasingly concerned about the allocation of resources within DevDiv based on what your blog focuses on, the feature set of 3.5, and this product roadmap.  You probably don't intend for it to come across this way, but it really seems like Silverlight is becoming the new WPF, just like WPF was the new WinForms.  Yes, we can tell the story that Microsoft loves and supports all its children forever, each one is unique and special in its own way, and you don't kill off all the previous children when the new one arrives, but it seems like the focus right now is on making Silverlight an 80% or 90% rich client solution, and once you flip the stand-alone out-of-browser bit, people will need to seriously think twice about using WPF for any new development.  And if that's the future, why should Microsoft invest any further in the WPF Classic feature set?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:19 PM by Dave

I would say half our files are in aspx and half are in classic ASP. Any thoughts on wheter the vbscript colorization/intellisense support that was in VS2005 will be put back in for VS2008? Does the community need to use the Visual Studio SDK and write something similar to what was done for IRON Python? I understand you want to keep moving forward, intellisense was probably difficult for vbscript, but ripping out colorization too? - ugh! Having two editors open for files in the same project isn't fun. Please provide your thoughts on this problem. Classic ASP syntax coloring is done in half a dozen controls on the web available from 3rd party vendors - if they can do it, I don't see why VS had to stop. Please provide your thoughts on this.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:27 PM by Eric

Extra points for saying "pretty gnarly" in a public blog post viewed by just about every ASP.NET developer out there...

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:47 PM by Gill Cleeren

Great! I have done quite some talks on Silverlight already, and I have heard people wondering if the change between Siverlight 1.0 and Silverlight 1.1 is significant. Now with a full upgrade of the number to 2.0, the BIG difference will be more obvious.

I fully support this change!

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:54 PM by Donny

Hi, Scott. Could you tell us whether the clipboard support for text as well as image data will get into the Silverlight 2.0 train?

And thanks for the great news regarding the roadmap!

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:02 PM by Darren

Most importantly will we be getting raw sockets network access?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:05 PM by dancoe

Cant wait for it.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:11 PM by Arne Claassen

Scott,

Fantastic news on Silverlight 2.0. Been working with 1.1 for a while and just having the CLR and a retained graphics mode canvas was already such a pleasure to work with. The more parity we can get with WPF the better.

Question on the networking. It looked like everything you mentioned was stateless http based protcols. Is there any plan for socket support planned so that stateful protocols could be implemented?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:20 PM by Eric

Dang, Scott, what're you all trying to do?  Make us beat our deadlines and get raises or something!!?!?!  sheesh.

;)

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:42 PM by Dominic Green

Pingback from Ctrl-Alt-Die Silverlight V1.0 has been going for a short time now...

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:03 PM by Adham Shaaban

Thanks for the roadmap Scott and all the great stuff you and your team have been doing!  It's always good to have an idea of what's coming down the road, I wish all Microsoft teams offered transparent roadmaps like this.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:06 PM by Mike

Thanks for the update Scott.  You didn't mention anything about Web Deployment projects.  Are they going to be updated for VS2008?  My company uses these things tremendously and I understand the current add-in is not compatible with VS2008.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:24 PM by b paul

Way to go Scott and team!

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:44 PM by Frank

Any plans for Linq to SQL in Silverlight 2.0?  Or at least a way to easily consume common .NET data models at the Silverlight tier?  

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:55 PM by Arnoud

Good work... thank you for sharing this. If only.... sniff...sockets...are you teasing us and still forcing us to use Flash? ;-)

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:01 PM by Pierre

Well all that fuss must have hurt the silverlight developer's adoption big time.

First knowing about 1.1 that early and second not knowing about its release date....

We postponned all the development on our site until 2.0 is released because of the steep tooling development involved with 1.0(lack of controls, lack of containers...) and being so close (Alpha) we preferred to wait.

You should have announced the 1.1(2.0) release earlier, that would have changed a lot of decisions.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:04 PM by Long Nguyen

Looking forward to MVC articles. Thanks.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:12 PM by Andrei Rinea

I see nothing mentioned about increased browser support in Silverlight 2.0. Something like... Opera perhaps?! :(

Opera fan,

Andrei Rinea.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:36 PM by Nathan

What about a url rewriting module for IIS 7?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:30 PM by Leon

Dude! C'mon! All the tease and none of the squeeze?! I simply can't wait for next week now. :)

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:46 PM by Eric

Great!

I'm really looking forward for all of this!

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:59 PM by Paraag Kantharia

Thanks Scott,

Pl. share some news about the latest happenings in " DLR ". You haven't blogged much on it yet, though its the most wanted support.

Pl. blog upcoming informative news on IronRuby, IronPython and Dynamic VB.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:04 PM by Rupak Ganguly

Kudos! <bow> Great work guys! Keeps me drawn to code each day.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:50 PM by Arun Sarma

Really kewl stuff, Scott! WPF UI Framework, Rich COntrols and Rich networking..really got my eyes bigger! :)

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Friday, November 30, 2007 12:16 AM by James

Dear Scott,

We are waiting for the Great "MVC CTP" next week.

Please make sure, we can easily " UNINSTALL CTP " without leaving any traces behind. This will save us for errors as well as help us to INSTALL New version of CTP's, when they arrive.

We believe, there must be aleast one CTP every 2 months. Do blog something on DLR support with MVC.

Thanks

James

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Friday, November 30, 2007 12:39 AM by Jim

Will SL 1.0 continue to be available? If yes, will the new features (like databinding, control templates etc) be available in the Javascript version of SL?

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Friday, November 30, 2007 12:42 AM by Ali

Any update on project jasper and its integration with ASP.Net?  

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Friday, November 30, 2007 2:12 AM by anonymous

It would be rocking if there was a Silverlight Mobile release around the same timeframe as 2.0 on the desktop.

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:31 AM by ScottGu

Hi Jesus,

>>>>>>> You mentioned that ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions “first public preview of this will be available for download next week on the web”. And that “will be releasing a Beta of Silverlight 2.0 in Q1 of 2008”.  Is Silverlight 2.0 included on the extensions?

Silverlight 2.0 will ship separately from the ASP.NET Extensions.  They'll be two different releases that you can download.

Hope this helps,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:33 AM by ScottGu

Hi Ian,

>>>>>>> In the Silverlight 2.0 Release when we create custom Silverlight Controls will we be able to fetch embedded resources like images back out of the assembly? I noticed right now you have the option to wrap them in but not get them back out.

Yes - you'll be able to retrieve assets like images from compiled assemblies as well as our application package format (more details on this later).

All image and mediaelement controls also now support being set to point to a URL, as well as having an in-memory byte stream set to them.

Hope this helps,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:34 AM by ScottGu

Hi Joe,

>>>>>>> Great news on the Silverlight features.  But you mention that it will be a subset of WPF 3.5 and then say it includes a DataGrid?  Does that mean there will be a WPF 3.6 update or some new downloadable components?

Yes - we are working on a WPF Windows datagrid in addition to a WPF Silverlight one.  They will be compatible with each other (one will be a super set of the other).  Our hope is to ship the WPF Windows Datagrid next year, and then also role it into a future service pack of the .NET Framework.

Hope this helps,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:35 AM by ScottGu

Hi Chad,

>>>>>> Thank you for the update.  You mention in this post how you will be "starting a new blog tutorial series in a few weeks that discusses how to build Silverlight 2.0 applications"  My question is, how will this be useful to those of us that cannot get our hands on a Silverlight build that has these features?

My hope is that the tutorial series will help people come up to speed on the feature-set and get a good mental picture of how the different pieces fit together.  

Hope this helps,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:36 AM by ScottGu

Hi Mcbeev,

>>>>>> Has there been any word on an update for Web Deployment Projects for VS 2008 ?

We will be shipping a VS 2008 Web Deployment Project update either tomorrow or early next week.

Thanks,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:37 AM by ScottGu

Hi Doctor,

>>>>>>> Hehehe, seriously though. I have looked around for any info on Silverlight mobile but I can’t find anything other than the demonstration back in May. How is this coming along and do the Silverlight Mobile devs have a web-log going?

We are making some good progress on this.  We don't have any announcements just yet to make - but things are progressing there....

Hope this helps,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:37 AM by ScottGu

Hi Simon,

>>>>>>> Awesome post, and it seems to include every suggestion i´ve seen for silverlight. Databinding, cross domain networking, similiar set of controls as wpf, but how about sockets? Anyhow, the big question for me is, will there be another ctp before the beta release? I truly, madly, deeply hope so :)

We are working on adding socket support as well.  We haven't finalized exactly which preview this will show up in - but it is definitely on our roadmap.

Thanks,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:38 AM by ScottGu

Hi Steven,

>>>>>>> Any idea when we can expect an updated  version of the Web Deployment Project?

The VS 2008 version will ship either tomorrow or early next week.

Hope this helps,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:39 AM by ScottGu

Hi Todd,

>>>>>>> Do you have a roadmap for Silverlight that covers the various platforms and when they will get the new version(s), or will 2.0 be released simultaneously on all supported platforms?

We'll release Silverlight 2.0 on all the platforms we build ourselves simultaneously (Mac + Windows - including Windows 2000, XP, Vista, WS03, WS08, etc).

Hope this helps,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:40 AM by ScottGu

Hi bill,

>>>>>>> Good job! I am also wondering the progress of dynamic language support like IronPython.

We are making good progress on the DLR and our dynamic languages implementation in general.  

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Friday, November 30, 2007 3:41 AM by ScottGu

Hi Gary,

>>>>>>> I do have a question about IIS 7.0. Windows Vista has already shipped with this. What are the differences between this release and the one in Windows Server 2008?

I should do a blog post in the future on this.  There are actually a lot of nice new IIS7 features in Windows Server 2008.  These will also show up in Vista with SP1.

>>>>>>> Also, do you guys get any information from Novell on the development status of Moonlight? Mono's page on the subject doesn't appear to get updated often. Will the release dates be far apart? Will this release contain all of the functionality  of the Windows and Mac versions?

We are working closely with them and they are making progress.  I don't think we have an exact ETA on when the final version will ship - but hopefully as soon as is possible.

Hope this helps,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:42 AM by ScottGu

Hi Colin,

>>>>>>>> Is it fair to say that Microsoft is not playing the mobile web game?  There seems to be little investment in the area of the mobile web.  With the number of devices exceeding PCs it seems like a big miss.

We'll be making some announcements about mobile devices in the future.  We definitely intend to play in this space.

Hope this helps,

Scott

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Friday, November 30, 2007 1:30 PM by hotfrost

Hi Scott.

thanks for awesome job you guys doing. quick question...

is there any way, downloader object in new release will not trancate the byte data for responseText property?

if there is byte data supplied to downloader, the responseText supplies the string of that data to the first 0 (thiking it is the end of the string??)

thanks,

HF

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Friday, November 30, 2007 5:32 PM by PaoloDiM

Oh, how I love competition!  Adobe is a grat company, but in some respects it was too great, in that it ate most of its competitors.  The same is true for Microsoft, only more so.  I own a company that specializes in licensing, and Microsoft is by far our largest vendor.  At parties, I hear very often talk about a "Microsoft monopoli".  Since I am in business of selling computer software solutions for business, I assure them that if something better came along, our clients would shift very very quickly, and therefore naturally so woulde we.  Before basically specializing in Microsoft licensing, we were IBM resellers (anyone here old enough to remember OS/2?).  The point here is that if this technology push is successful, there witll be squaks about the mythical "Microsoft monopoli".  But it will be false again, any gain (and I believe that there will be some)will be the result of competitive dynamics.  Adobe will then provide us with better product to regain market share, and so on .... .  We developers will gain because we will be able to produce better software, the clients will gain on their competition if we perform, and .... Viva Competition!

Paolo

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Friday, November 30, 2007 6:20 PM by Gauthier Segay

<cite>ASP.NET Dynamic Data Support: The ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions release will deliver new features that enable faster creation of data driven web sites.  It provides a rich scaffolding framework, and enables rapid data driven site development using both ASP.NET WebForms and ASP.NET MVC.</cite>

I once got my hand on the asp.net future dynamic data bits, know that you will use MVC for the release really rocks!

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Friday, November 30, 2007 7:52 PM by David Mackey

Scott - This is great!!

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Friday, November 30, 2007 11:20 PM by Telmo Sampaio

Scott,

Great job! Quick question: will Silverlight 2.0 support the System.Drawing namespace? I have needs to manipulate bitmap data.

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Friday, November 30, 2007 11:24 PM by vikram

Thaks for the tons of information. Just one question will silverlight 2.0 support Windows 2000?

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Saturday, December 1, 2007 5:03 PM by H2000

Please release the sockets :o)

Silverlight is useless to our project (as well as many other) without :(

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Monday, December 3, 2007 1:44 AM by Marek Istvanek

Will you add 3D graphics support to Silverlight?

Flash has Papervision3D...

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Monday, December 3, 2007 5:06 AM by Joe

What will be the size of the installation?

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Monday, December 3, 2007 8:14 AM by Philip

An excellent and much needed Roadmap.

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Monday, December 3, 2007 1:23 PM by Alpha-Beta-Release Blog

Thanks for this (and other :) posts!

Your information is always very helpful !

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Monday, December 3, 2007 3:51 PM by Bret

Any plans on including the JpegEncoder/JpegDecoder classes? One of the most common things for websites is to allow users to upload photos. Currently you have to upload the 3-6megabyte original and resize at the server, or write an active x plugin to do it client side. I'd really like to be able to use Silverlight to resize and crop images client side and then upload them to the server to reduce upload time and bandwith usage.

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Tuesday, December 4, 2007 7:45 AM by prakash

Great news, I would like to have  support for rich text(being able to render html in silverlight would be great!) and xsl support in silverlight.

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Tuesday, December 4, 2007 10:57 AM by Greg

Any additional information on these would be most helpful:

a) What level of .NET winForms controls will be included in Silverlight?

b) What level of .NET framework base classes will be included in Silverlight? (a diagram with a 'S' tag of the framework classes would be nice - like is done for the compact framework)

c) Will a Silverlight application be able to be shipped as a stand alone application as well as being embedded in a web page?

d) Will Silverlight provide nearly all of the current user interaction support that JavaScript does?  This is quite important to us because we want to avoid splitting the code between C# server size and javascript client side.  We want to use a Winforms like environment.  We've found in the long run that production quality applications are much much more costly to maintain and keep working if they rely extensively on javascript.  Therefore, we try to include almost no javascript in our production applications.

e) What support will there be for a security module or security token server?  This is a big issue for us because for auditing needs we need to centralize user security and permission management.

We try to get 5+ years out a production application before undertaking a major upgrade.

Our general goal from the technology aspect is to simplify our supported platforms. This includes eliminating all VB6 code, applications that depend on VB6 com components and eliminate all windows 2000 systems.

Many commercial applications rely on vb6 com components.  Smaller software companies often have no upgrade roadmap to move away from VB6 code or VB6 based com components.

It would be nice to have system tools to help us identify all VB6 code be it in an application, com component, dll, etc.

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Tuesday, December 4, 2007 4:46 PM by IWS

Is the .NET symbol server ready yet?

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Wednesday, December 5, 2007 10:29 AM by Brian

We're excited about this, but really can't justify spending more time on it until we know more about accessibility support and see some well crafted examples on how to build stuff that is accessible. Please? :)

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Thursday, December 6, 2007 12:23 AM by Razan

Thanks for the article.I am looking forward to the beta release of Silverlight 2.0.

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Thursday, December 6, 2007 11:30 AM by Dan

is ado.net data services the same as the entity framework beta 3?

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Friday, December 7, 2007 5:27 AM by Kigorw

Hi Scott I have question.

Will have IIS7/ASP.NET comet technology support?

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Friday, December 7, 2007 1:38 PM by abe

ok man it's been a week! Where's the ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions download link?!! :)

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Friday, December 7, 2007 2:05 PM by Wills

Silverlight looks awesome ...

BUT ...

Blend simply HAS to be a Mac application too for designers to use ALONGSIDE their existing tools.

The fact is that DESIGNERS work on Macs..

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Saturday, December 8, 2007 10:07 AM by Tim

Hi Scott,

I can't get any VS2008 asp.net apps to work with iis5.1 on XP Pro SP2.

I have a standard setup of .net 3.5 etc.

Is there anything to tweak?

Thanks,

Tim

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Sunday, December 9, 2007 11:48 PM by Veeral Patel

G'day

Fantastic news on silverlight. Just one question will 2.0 have any out of the box support for XPS ? Since XPS is one of the many components of WPF, it would be good if silverlight could support this natively rather than building a custom parser to allow XPS to be displayed within silverlight.

cheers

Veeral

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Monday, December 10, 2007 4:24 AM by NeilAlderson

Hi Scott,

I wonder if you could tell me if the Silverlight 2.0 Beta + tools release in Q1 2008 will support the Express editions of VS2008 or will I have to wait until a later release?

I also wonder if the current Silverlight 1.1 Alpha release can be used in Express WITHOUT the templates available for other versions of VS2008. I mean is it possible to create XAML code behind files by hand just by including the correct dll's and inheriting from Canvas (this seems to be all that the templates do automatically for you) or am I missing something else?

Cheers for the great blog and keeping us informed!

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Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:46 AM by Mokond - mokond@o2.pl

What's about the reuse of the WPF's code?

What changdes need to be done to make it Silverlight code?

Thanks

Jack

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:13 AM by koger

Is Silverlight 2 going to support WCF or parts of it?

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:44 AM by ScottGu

Hi Koger,

>>>>>> Is Silverlight 2 going to support WCF or parts of it?

Yes - Silverlight 2.0 will include a WCF API.

Thanks,

Scott

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:04 PM by Nick

This is all fantastic news! This post right here and all the stuff it talks about, that is my Christmas gift from Microsoft.

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Friday, December 28, 2007 1:12 PM by Yasir Atabani

This is a great news to hear, i'm looking forward to start using Silverlight

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Monday, December 31, 2007 4:09 PM by Dave

Silverlight 2.0 is gonna be wicked the badazz!

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 3:08 PM by Alex

Hi there!

I've observed Silverlight since 1.0 and I have to admit at the moment it uses almost all CPU power on average samples while the production isn't fast at all. It's a great technology though, but is there any solution or plan to speed up the whole framework?

p.s. Performance and sockets are real obstacles for my company to create brand new software :)))

# re: .NET Web Product Roadmap (ASP.NET, Silverlight, IIS7)

Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:19 AM by ajk-eis

Hi Scott,

sorry for misusing this post abit, but we are having a big problem with IIS 7 and ASP NET 20 validation controls and I didn't find a better place for it.

It would seem that there is no way to have a web project that contains validation controls unless the app pool is run in classic .net compatability mode.

That seems strange, since the validation controls are still up to date in VS 2008. It would seem no one has an answer to this.

See ASP.NET thread forums.asp.net/.../1155043.aspx

I would appreciate any help you can give us. It's kind of hard to sell IIS 7 (W2K8 Server) when several normal ASP 2.0 sites won't run without "hacks".