VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

I'm very pleased to announce that the Beta 2 release of VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta2 is now available for download.  You can download the Visual Studio 2008 product here.  You can alternatively download the smaller VS 2008 Express Editions here

VS 2008 and Visual Web Developer 2008 Express can be installed side-by-side with VS 2005.  .NET 3.5 Beta2 also includes a go-live license which allows you to build and deploy applications into production.

Very Important: Please read my "Installation Notes" at the bottom of this blog post for a few post-installation steps you must make to ensure everything runs well.  One of these steps fixes a side-by-side issue we found with ASP.NET AJAX. 

Quick Tour of Some of the New Features for Web Development

Over the last few months I've written several blog posts that discuss some of the new improvements in this release.  Below is a quick summary list of several of them that I have already published.  This list is by no means exhaustive - there are a lot more things I haven't had a chance to blog about yet (stay tuned for more posts!):

VS 2008 Multi-Targeting Support

VS 2008 enables you to build applications that target multiple versions of the .NET Framework.  You can learn more about how this works from my blog post here:

VS 2008 Web Designer and CSS Support

VS 2008 includes a significantly improved HTML web designer.  This delivers support for split-view editing, nested master pages, and great CSS integration.  Below are two articles I've written that discuss this more:

ASP.NET also has a new <asp:ListView> control that I'll be blogging about in the near future.  It delivers very flexible support for data UI scenarios, and allows full customization of the markup emitted.  It works nicely with the new CSS support in VS 2008.

ASP.NET AJAX and JavaScript Support

.NET 3.5 has ASP.NET AJAX built-in (and adds new features like UpdatePanel support with WebParts, WCF support for JSON, and a number of bug fixes and performance improvements).  VS 2008 also has great support for integrating JavaScript and AJAX into your applications:

I will be doing a blog post in the next few days that talks more about some of the ASP.NET AJAX specific improvements, as well as how to upgrade existing ASP.NET AJAX 1.0 applications to use them.

Language Improvements and LINQ

The new VB and C# compilers in VS 2008 deliver significant improvements to the languages.  Both add functional programming concepts that enable you to write cleaner, terser, and more expressive code.  These features also enable a new programming model we call LINQ (language integrated query) that makes querying and working with data a first-class programming concept with .NET. 

Below are some of the articles I've written that explore these new language features using C#:

Data Access Improvements with LINQ to SQL

LINQ to SQL is a built-in OR/M (object relational mapper) in .NET 3.5.  It enables you to model relational databases using a .NET object model.  You can then query the database using LINQ, as well as update/insert/delete data from it.  LINQ to SQL fully supports transactions, views, and stored procedures.  It also provides an easy way to integrate business logic and validation rules into your data model.  Below are some of the articles I've written that explore how to use it:

I'll be adding several more articles to my series above in the weeks ahead.  I think you'll find that LINQ to SQL makes it dramatically easier to build much cleaner data models, and write much cleaner data code.

Lots of other improvements

The list above is only a small set of the improvements coming.  For client development VS 2008 includes WPF designer and project support.  ClickOnce and WPF XBAPs now work with FireFox.  WinForms and WPF projects can also now use the ASP.NET Application Services (Membership, Roles, Profile) for roaming user data. Office development is much richer - including support for integrating with the Office 2007 ribbon.  WCF and Workflow projects and designers are included in VS 2008.  Unit testing support is now much faster and included in VS Professional (and no longer just VSTS).  Continuous Integration support is now built-in with TFS.  AJAX web testing (unit and load) is now supported in the VS Test SKU.  And there is much, much more...

Important Installation Notes - PLEASE READ!

There are two important things you should do immediately after installing VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta2:

1) You should download and run this batch file.  This takes only a few seconds to run, and fixes an issue we found earlier this week with the version policy of System.Web.Extensions.dll - which is the assembly that contains ASP.NET AJAX.  If you don't run this batch file, then existing ASP.NET 2.0 projects built with ASP.NET AJAX 1.0 and VS 2005 will end up automatically picking up the new version of ASP.NET AJAX that ships in .NET 3.5 Beta2.  This will work and run fine - but cause you to inadvertently introduce a .NET 3.5 dependency in the applications you build with VS 2005.  Running the batch file will change the version binding policy of the new System.Web.Extensions.dll assembly and ensure that you only use the new .NET 3.5 ASP.NET AJAX version with projects that you are explicitly building for .NET 3.5.

2) If you have ever installed a previous version of "Orcas" or VS 2008 on your machine (either Beta1 or one of the CTP versions), you need to reset your VS 2008 settings after installing Beta2.  If you don't do this, you'll have an odd set of settings configured (some windows will be in the wrong place), and you'll potentially see some IDE performance slowness.  You can reset your settings by typing "DevEnv /resetsettings" on the command-line against the VS 2008 version of the IDE:

Summary

There are a lot of new improvements and enhancements that I hope you'll find really useful with VS 2008 and .NET 3.5.  Stay tuned to my blog over the next few weeks as I'll be posting more about some of the new features and how to get the most out of them.

Thanks,

Scott

Published Thursday, July 26, 2007 2:11 PM by ScottGu

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# VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 released, with Go Live

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:20 PM by Peter Johnson's Blog

It's official! In one of the first of a few dozen posts you'll read about it, Scott Guthrie announces

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:26 PM by Denny Ferrassoli

At last! I've been refreshing since 8am this morning :) I'm glad the rumors were true!

GREAT work! I can't wait to install.

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:27 PM by Ryan Ternier

Awesome!

Thanks so much for letting us know Scott!

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:31 PM by Rory Becker

Scott... You guys Rock. Every last one of you.

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:31 PM by Joe

Thanks for having the VPC images available right away, Scott.  VPC is my favorite way to beta.  I was refreshing the VS 2008 Downloads page all day and was pleasantly surprised when the Beta 2 DL's appeared.  Looks like I'll be spending the weekend on my laptop.

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:36 PM by Mikael Söderström

This is very exciting!

Cogratulations to the release. :-)

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:40 PM by GRC

Do they send DVD with this beta to your home for free, like they did with VS2005?

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# Lambdas, and Take While, and Group By, Oh My!

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:45 PM by The Visual Basic Team

Hooray! Visual Basic 2008 Beta2 has been released to the wild today to return to its natural habitat

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:45 PM by MichaelD!

WOOOOOOOHOOOOO!!!  AWESOME WORK SCOTT!  AWESOME WORK TEAM!  Can NOT wait to throw down on this new incredible framework and toolset.

Is there a Beta1 uninstaller anywhere? *halo*  Yes I'm a real dev... I don't believe in VPCs. :)

Also Scott: any word on what version of the Entity Framework made it into Beta 2?

GREAT WORK ONCE AGAIN!

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:45 PM by Leo

Awesome!  You guys rock!

# vs2008 beta 2 released and install notes

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:47 PM by Method ~ of ~ failed

vs2008 beta 2 released and install notes

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:48 PM by Boris Yeltsin's Zombie

You've made this old zombie very happy.

And thanks for providing VPC images straight off.

Right, time for some go-live! w00t.

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# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:51 PM by Samiq

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# VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:52 PM by Scott Forsyth's WebLog

Beta 2 of VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 which was just released a few minutes ago and is available for download

# Valer BOCAN&#8217;s Web Log &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 is here!

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# VS 2008 Orcas and .Net 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:57 PM by Ian Suttle's Blog

VS 2008 Orcas and .Net 3.5 Beta 2 Released

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:07 PM by Gill Cleeren

Hi Scott,

Congrats on the release!

Some small questions:

Is it possible to have VS 2005 and VS 2008 beta 2 installed on the same machine?

And, will the uninstall work correctly for beta 2, once the RTM bite are here?

Thanks

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:17 PM by Judah

Woo! Thanks Scott, looking forward to giving it a spin tonight.

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:23 PM by Ben Hayat

Hi Scott;

Will you let us know when and where, we can download the Silverlight that matches the new VS2008 beta 2?

Thank you Sir!

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:35 PM by FlorinB

Congratulations! Can't wait to install this. Extra points for Microsoft's punctuality

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:37 PM by Amrinder Sandhu

I have been waiting for this. Installing now. Thank you!

# Visual Studio 2008 and .Net 3.5 Beta 2 Released Today

Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:42 PM by Adrian Spear

[via Scott Guthrie] The next beta is here! Fuller details from Scott Guthrie's blog here.

# Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 and .NET Framework 3.5 Beta 2 Released, Silverlight 1.0 RC in a few days

Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:58 PM by Harold van de Kamp .NET Blog

Today Scott Guthrie and Somasegar anounced the release of Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 and .NET Framework

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:01 PM by Bryan Hoylman

Install just finished.  Ready to Rock and Roll!

Great job, Scott (and crew)...

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:06 PM by Jim

Scott,

Congratulations on this release.

What are some of the key differences between the standard and professional versions?  I noticed the large difference in file size (700MB vs 3100 MB).

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:08 PM by Ramon Durães

the best news of the day!!

thanks!

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:09 PM by Amrinder Sandhu

Hi Scott,

I created a new ASP.Net website using VS 2008 B2. However, none of the asp.net components show up in the toolbox nor are the accessible using intellisense. Any ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks,

Amrinder

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:12 PM by ScottGu

Hi Amrinder,

>>>>>>> Hi Scott, I created a new ASP.Net website using VS 2008 B2. However, none of the asp.net components show up in the toolbox nor are the accessible using intellisense. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks, Amrinder

Make sure that you've run the devenv.exe /resetsettings step I mentioned in my installation notes above.  The toolbox/intellisense behavior could be because you had an older version of Orcas on the machine.

If you still have problems, send me an email (scottgu@microsoft.com) and I can help further.

Thanks,

Scott

# Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 - Downloadable now!

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:15 PM by My VSTS Blog

Well the blogosphere's already running hot ( Soma , Rob , Scott to name a few) with the news that Visual

# VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:16 PM by The Next Web in Malaysia! @ Rohan Thomas' Blog

Good job guys! Check out ScottGu's Blog entry for details Cheers!

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# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:42 PM by Clayton Powell

Hi Scot,

Great news!

Can you please tell me how the Go Live License works. Does this mean that no breaking interface changes will be made between the Beta 2 release and the final release? Can we safely build with this release without our code breaking on the final release? Is this release feature complete? Or are there outstanding components that you are still working on?

Thanks,

Clayton.

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:43 PM by tomcat

hi, im also interested in the differences between standard and professional. in new zealand our bandwidth isnt as cheap as you guys in the states.

cheers

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:54 PM by John West

Silverlight question:

1) Is there a version of the Silverlight Alpha Tools for Beta 2?  If not, will the Beta 1 version of the Silverlight tools work with VS Beta 2?

Thx!

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:56 PM by Mark Easton

Hi Scott

Can the Express Editions be used to develop with Silverlight and Astoria?

I am currently using VS2005 to develop Silverlight which is fine but as I understand it Astoria definiately needs 2008.

Thanks

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:58 PM by Jim Smith

Do we need to download and install both .Net Framework 3.5 Beta 2 and Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2, or the latter alone is enough?

# Visual Studio 2008/Orcas Beta 2 and RTM Availability

Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:01 PM by Hauser & Wenz :: Blog

There have been some announcements this weeks, and I try to sum them up. On July 10th, Microsoft issued a press statement regarding the launch event for Windows Server 2008, Visual Studio 2008, and SQL Server 2008. The event date will take place in Los

# VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:02 PM by Adrian.

I'm very pleased to announce that the Beta 2 release of VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta2 is now available for download. You can download the Visual Studio 2008 product here. You can alternatively download the smaller VS 2008 Express Editions here.

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:09 PM by Eric Kemp

Great news! And thanks for the AJAX policy patch - I had to uninstall Beta 1 because of that exact issue, and am truly grateful to have a workaround going into Beta 2.

# Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2

Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:14 PM by Luc Gauthier's Weblogs

La version Beta 2 est maintenant disponible à l'adresse: msdn2.microsoft.com/.../aa700831.aspx

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:25 PM by slightly confused

Hi Scott,

I'm a little confused about the licensing terms. You state a go-live license is included, but on the download page the following text is present:

This beta is intended for early adopters of the Microsoft technology, platform, and tools offerings. We designed this release to let developers try out new technology and product changes, but not to build production systems. This limitation is fully covered in the Microsoft Software License Terms that accompany this beta.

It's a big download just to read the eula. :(

I'd like to take advantage of some the cool stuff, but it's a small project that I plan to have deployed before 2008. Can you clear that up for me?

Thanks

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:29 PM by ps.cn

WOOOOO,Thank you Scott,Very cool

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# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:41 PM by Carlos Yakimov

I have waited so long!!! I'm Downloading it right now. :D

Thanks

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:59 PM by Vikram

The wait for orcas beta 2 is download. My download manage is already working (even before writing this comment)

# Installation Notes For Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2

Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:15 PM by Palermo4

At the bottom of Scott Guthrie's blog announcement of Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 , he recommended the

# VS.NET 2008 Beta 2 Now Available to Download

Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:26 PM by Dan Wahlin's WebLog

I'm a few hours late on writing this, but if you haven't already heard, VS.NET 2008 beta 2 is now available

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:32 PM by Seyon

Good news!

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:45 PM by Teng Foung

This release gonna be one of the most successful release with all those on demand features, especially the intellisense for Javascript and CSS. You guys ROCK!

# VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:02 PM by ljianl

终于又推出新版本了,不过更期待即将在2008年2月份发布的RTM版本,以及正式版的发布。

# VS2008 is coming to town

Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:02 PM by Wiennat's Blog

VS2008 is coming to town

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:14 PM by Eric Wild

You released this at the same time as the Simpson's movie?

How do you sleep at night?  :)

# VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:18 PM by jakelite

So for those of you aching to try the new partial methods feature this is your chance. You can access

# VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:26 PM by For my love

VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:35 PM by Myanmar Guy

So excited to use VS2008 soon

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# VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released | AIRScripts

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# A new Framework deserves a new Toolkit [AJAX Control Toolkit updated for .NET 3.5 Beta 2!]

Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:33 PM by Delay's Blog

Earlier today Microsoft announced Beta 2 of Visual Studio 2008 and the .NET Framework 3.5 . As usual,

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:43 PM by Marco Chila

Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 disponível para download.

And on my blog I said that the new version is "a step ahead".

See ya!@!

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:44 PM by Rajiv Das

Kudos!

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 12:09 AM by Mariano

Hey Scott, congrats on releasing Beta 2!

One thing I'm seeing, is that even after applying that AJAX patch, there's confusion with the versions. For example, I have a .NET 2.0 app using AJAX Extensions 1.0. If I open the website with Beta 2, it treats the website as 3.5 (every new WebForm I add has using System.Linq for example). Going to the website properties and adjusting the Target Framework to 2.0 fixes the issue, but removes the stuff in web.config about AJAX. I have to Ctrl-Z in the web.config to return the file to its original state.

I can reproduce this behavior if needed.

Cheers!

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 12:13 AM by Marco

This is great news downloading now. The VS 2008 Multi-Targeting Support is going to be great.

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 12:42 AM by DotNetUrls.com

太好了,整整刷新了一天一夜终于等来了Beta 2发布的消息,这里有多少懂中文的同行啊?:)

Great news, thank you Scottgu and your team!!!

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 12:49 AM by ScottGu

Hi Mariano,

>>>>>>> Hey Scott, congrats on releasing Beta 2!  One thing I'm seeing, is that even after applying that AJAX patch, there's confusion with the versions. For example, I have a .NET 2.0 app using AJAX Extensions 1.0. If I open the website with Beta 2, it treats the website as 3.5 (every new WebForm I add has using System.Linq for example). Going to the website properties and adjusting the Target Framework to 2.0 fixes the issue, but removes the stuff in web.config about AJAX. I have to Ctrl-Z in the web.config to return the file to its original state.  I can reproduce this behavior if needed.

Unfortunately this is a bug that we just caught last night.  If you have a web-site project in VS 2005 and have the ASP.NET AJAX 1.0 extension installed, VS 2008 will incorrectly think it is a .NET 3.5 project when it first opens it.  The fix is to go to the project properties and convert it back to a .NET 2.0 project.  You can then later make it a .NET 3.5 if you want to upgrade it.

The webdevtools blog (blogs.msdn.com/.../default.aspx) is going to be posting an entry about this tonight or tomorrow.  I'll also link to the workaround once it is live - although it sounds from above like you already got it working.

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 12:51 AM by Dan

Is there any time limit for the professional and standard version? How long can we use it without upgrading to RTM version? Thanks

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 12:54 AM by ScottGu

Hi MichaelD,

>>>> Also Scott: any word on what version of the Entity Framework made it into Beta 2?

LINQ to Entities and the Entity Framework will be a separate download for Orcas (and will ship next year with the SQL Server "Katmai" release).

LINQ to SQL, though, is built-in and will ship in the .NET 3.5 framework.

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 12:55 AM by ScottGu

Hi Gill,

>>>> Is it possible to have VS 2005 and VS 2008 beta 2 installed on the same machine?

Yep - this is perfectly supported.  Make sure to run the batch file I listed in my installation notes above to avoid an ASP.NET AJAX side-by-side conflict.

>>>>> And, will the uninstall work correctly for beta 2, once the RTM bite are here?

Yep - you'll be able to uninstall Beta2 and install the final RTM build once it ships.

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 12:57 AM by ScottGu

Hi Ben,

>>>>>> Will you let us know when and where, we can download the Silverlight that matches the new VS2008 beta 2?

We should have an update to Silverlight out tomorrow.  It will include a version of the Silverlight Add-On for Visual Studio that works with VS 2008 Beta2.

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 12:58 AM by ScottGu

Hi Jim and Tomcat,

>>>>>> What are some of the key differences between the standard and professional versions?  I noticed the large difference in file size (700MB vs 3100 MB).

Good question - I'm not 100% sure of the complete list.  All of the web development specific features are in Visual Studio Standard.  I believe the Office development tool support, unit testing, mobile and a few other features are VS professional only.

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 1:00 AM by ScottGu

Hi Clayton,

>>>>>> Can you please tell me how the Go Live License works. Does this mean that no breaking interface changes will be made between the Beta 2 release and the final release? Can we safely build with this release without our code breaking on the final release? Is this release feature complete? Or are there outstanding components that you are still working on?

We don't guarentee that API changes won't happen, although we don't have any plans making new API changes at this point.  In general I'd assume that you'll need to-do a tiny bit of work to migrate to RTM (we'll document each and every change between the two).  But the work should be quick and easy.

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 1:02 AM by ScottGu

Hi Jim,

>>>>> Do we need to download and install both .Net Framework 3.5 Beta 2 and Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2, or the latter alone is enough?

You only need to download VS 2008 Beta2 - it includes the .NET Framework 3.5 as part of its setup.

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 1:03 AM by ScottGu

Hi Dan,

>>>>>> Is there any time limit for the professional and standard version? How long can we use it without upgrading to RTM version? Thanks

I believe it is a 365 day time limit for Beta2.  Once you install Beta2 you can choose the Help->About Visual Studio to see how many days are left before it will stop working and you'll need to upgrade to RTM.

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 1:11 AM by Ruchit S

Hi scott,

voilla,

gr8..

The ever awaited thing has come now.. thnks 4 tht.

Ruchit S.

http://ruchitsurati.net

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# Link Listing - July 26, 2007

Friday, July 27, 2007 1:24 AM by Christopher Steen

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# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 1:34 AM by zepherelli

i202.photobucket.com/.../vs2008installationError.jpg

What is causing the error, when running the install of 2008, it says I've failed the initial requirements cause I don't have XP service pack 2 installed, but I'm on Vista.

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 1:40 AM by ScottGu

Hi zepherelli,

>>> What is causing the error, when running the install of 2008, it says I've failed the initial requirements cause I don't have XP service pack 2 installed, but I'm on Vista.

That is pretty odd.  Can you send me an email (scottgu@microsoft.com) and I'll loop you in with someone who can investigate and figure out why it isn't working.

Thanks,

Scott

# VS 2008 Orcas Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 1:45 AM by Bilal Haidar [MVP, MCT]

The VS 2008 Orcas Beta 2 has been released! Read more about it here: weblogs.asp.net/.../vs-2008-and-net-3-5-beta-2-released.aspx

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# VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 2:29 AM by Mik's Blog

Scott Guthries Blog is the one to read if you are interested in the latest informations about Orcas,

# Orcas beta 2 wave is heating up the summer

Friday, July 27, 2007 2:50 AM by Righthand blogs

As Somasegar and other softies announced , Orcas beta 2 (and .net 3.5 beta 2 with go-live license) is

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 2:56 AM by Basharat Bhat

I have both VS2005 and VS2008 B2 installed on my machine. However, when I run "devenv.exe" command  through my Run Box. It opens vs2005.

How to make VS2008 B2 as my default vs application?

Anyways, Congrats !!!

Thanks,

Basharat Bhat

BQE Software, CA

# Visual Studio 2008, Beta 2 (now with some of my code)

Friday, July 27, 2007 2:57 AM by Colin's Microsoft Developer Blog

Today we released Beta 2 of VS2008. This is the first public release from Microsoft that contains a nontrivial

# Visual Studio 2008, Beta 2 (now with some of my code)

Friday, July 27, 2007 3:08 AM by Noticias externas

Today we released Beta 2 of VS2008. This is the first public release from Microsoft that contains a nontrivial

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 3:33 AM by Clayton Powell

Hi Scott,

Will LINQ to SQL support SQL Server 2000 or only SQL Server 2005? If yes are there any differences between the two?

Also can you place your ORM datacontext in a ClassLibrary and use it from both a Web application and an EXE (WinForms)? Will it automatically use the connection string from Web.config or App.config depending on the context it is called in? This is how the dataset designer works now.

# Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 cette semaine !

Friday, July 27, 2007 3:34 AM by Blog-a-Styx

Ca tease sec depuis que Scott Guthrie a répondu à un commentaire de son blog en indiquant (9ème commentaire)

# Visual Studio 2008 Beta2 Downloads

Friday, July 27, 2007 3:34 AM by colin

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# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 3:55 AM by Danny Chun

You mentioned that there will be a new version of the Silverlight Add-On for Visual Studio that works with VS 2008 Beta2.

Will this add-on allow us to develop Silverlight 1.1 alpha application?

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 4:02 AM by SimonHL

Hi Scott

Excellent work, thx to you and your team. Can't wait to play (sorry, work) with VS2008! Could you just clarify what you maen by "UpdatePanel support with WebParts"... is this the return of the elusive webParts INSIDE update panels that was removed between the Atlas CTP and Ajax V1?

Thx again

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 4:04 AM by ScottGu

Hi Clayton,

>>>>> Will LINQ to SQL support SQL Server 2000 or only SQL Server 2005? If yes are there any differences between the two?

LINQ to SQL supports both SQL 2000 and SQL 2005.  The only feature difference I know of is that LINQ to SQL uses SQL 2005's ROW_NUMBER() feature to enable server-side paging.  I believe LINQ to SQL on SQL 2000 has to fall back and do middle tier paging.

>>>>>>> Also can you place your ORM datacontext in a ClassLibrary and use it from both a Web application and an EXE (WinForms)? Will it automatically use the connection string from Web.config or App.config depending on the context it is called in? This is how the dataset designer works now.

Yes - you can definitely do this.  ORM datacontexts can easily be placed in Class Libraries, and then referenced and used from multiple applications (both web and client ones).

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 4:05 AM by ScottGu

Hi Danny,

>>>>>> You mentioned that there will be a new version of the Silverlight Add-On for Visual Studio that works with VS 2008 Beta2.  Will this add-on allow us to develop Silverlight 1.1 alpha application?

Yes - this add-on will allow you to develop Silverlight 1.1 alpha applications using VS 2008 Beta2.

Hope this helps,

Scott

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 4:10 AM by ScottGu

Hi Simon,

>>>>> Could you just clarify what you maen by "UpdatePanel support with WebParts"... is this the return of the elusive webParts INSIDE update panels that was removed between the Atlas CTP and Ajax V1?

Yes - I believe this is the case.  I haven't tried it out myself yet, but in talking with someone on the team they told me this is now supported.  It is on my list of things to code up and blog about in the future. :-)

Thanks,

Scott

# Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 is out

Friday, July 27, 2007 4:31 AM by Guru Stop

Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 is out

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 4:39 AM by Sven Cipido

Hi Scott, finally can't wait to install it.  BTW : Great article.

# Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 is now available

Friday, July 27, 2007 4:40 AM by Hartmut's Box

Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 is now available for download. Beta 2 includes a &#8220;go live&#8221; licence, which means that you are allowed to use it in production. The download site provides the following beta 2 editions: Standard, Professional, Team

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 4:40 AM by Jonesy

Hi, I am getting

"DepCheck indicates Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0SP1 (CBS) is not installed."

When installing 3.5 Beta 2 on Vista Ultimate 32bit?

This is a completely new install which has the following:

Vista

Visual Studio 2005

Visual Studio 2005 SP1

Visual Studio 2005 Vista Update

>Either .NET 3.5 or VS 2008 Beta 2 installs fail here.<

Any ideas?

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released

Friday, July 27, 2007 4:59 AM by Karel

If I mount image file of VS 2008 profesional a try to install it, installer cant't find file eula.txt, instalation is aborted...

# re: VS 2008 and .NET 3.5 Beta 2 Released